Grammar for JLPT 4

[teo]

Hi,
I´m searching a list of grammar points that i have to know for JLTP 4. I can´t buy any book so I want a webpage with that list.
Thanks!!!!

[KrazyKat]

Originally Posted by teo

Hi,
I´m searching a list of grammar points that i have to know for JLTP 4. I can´t buy any book so I want a webpage with that list.
Thanks!!!!

Hi teo,
My honest advice would be not to bother with JLPT 4. It is pretty much meaningless and with a bit more effort you could have a try at the JLPT 3, after all you have a whole year.

I would also not recommend trying to find a website covering all of the JLPT 4 grammar points. Just keep working with the textbook you are using now and you will cover it all anyway - in a more structured fashion with better explainations. If you still want to find it then i'm sure you can use google as well as anyone else

Good Luck with your Japanese,
Katherine

[Bucko]

Originally Posted by KrazyKat

Hi teo,
My honest advice would be not to bother with JLPT 4. It is pretty much meaningless and with a bit more effort you could have a try at the JLPT 3, after all you have a whole year.

Level 3 is as meaningless as level 4 so aiming for either is just fine IMO. I did level 4 last year after 11 months of study and I still found it pretty hard, especially the listening part. Mind you, I didn't study specifically for the test until the day before so there was heaps of grammar that I didn't know, and I knew a fair bit of grammar that I didn't need for the test. So try for level 4, pass it easily, then aim for level 2 next year! Anyway, try the following website for help with the JLPT (any level):

http://www.mlcjapanese.co.jp/Download.htm

[nhk9]

There is a big gap between lvl 2 & 4, and to make that jump from 4 to 2 directly is not recommended unless you have a sound command in Kanji and intermediate grammar. If you go to university you can expect to achieve that level in 2 years of study.

Level 4 is pretty much a waste of money. The only thing that you could do with the level 4 certificate is that you can tell others who don't speak a word of Japanese besides "konnichiwa" or "ohayoo" that you know a couple more Japanese words than they do. On the other hand, the preparing for the level 3 should give you a thorough basic background on the different aspects of the language (although I cannot say you can survive in Japan with level 3 Japanese)

Use the kanzen masuta series for level 1,2,3. They can be ordered at amazon.jp

Also, for listening, you can try the nihongo journal. From what I know, they are starting to publish new editions again.

[GoldCoinLover]

"(although I cannot say you can survive in Japan with level 3 Japanese)
"

Oh god, I'm screwed.

If you know all the particles, dont' you know all the grammar?

What level is japanese 4 at?

[jt_]

Originally Posted by GoldCoinLover

"(although I cannot say you can survive in Japan with level 3 Japanese)
"
Oh god, I'm screwed.
If you know all the particles, dont' you know all the grammar?
What level is japanese 4 at?

No offense, Kevin, but this statement shows that you still have a very naive understanding of what it means to learn a language.

It's like asking, "If you know all the words like 'a', 'the', 'from', 'on', 'to', etc. doesn't that mean that you know everything about English grammar?"

The obvious answer is -- of course not.

Then there's also the question of what it means to "know" a particular grammatical structure, particle, or what have you.