About Shintaro Ishihara...

Shinmeiryu · Apr 14, 2003, 12:50

I hear he's running for another term as Governor of Tokyo again, is this true? And what are his chances of winning?

Does he have enough power to further his political career after his run as Governor? (I'm hoping not...) As I've heard some stuff that would make me label him as a paranoid, xenophobic jerk.

Maciamo · Apr 14, 2003, 15:58

I guess his chances are pretty good. He looks cool, like Bush. Both of them are f*cked in their head, but most people care about the external impression first. That's how both were elected and could be re-elected.

thomas · Apr 14, 2003, 16:53

Originally posted by Maciamo
...and could be re-elected.

Ishihara re-elected governor of Tokyo in a landslide

=> http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/news/20030...dm025002c.html

Maciamo · Apr 14, 2003, 17:20

Well, I hadn't chekced the news. So the clown has been re-elected yesterday. How wonderful...

noyhauser · Apr 14, 2003, 23:31

be happy he is only running for the governership of Tokyo, rather than the whole nation.

Maciamo · Apr 15, 2003, 17:45

Yes, he is likely to succeed to Koizumi as PM. To know better what kind of person he is read this article of the BBC. His stance against foreigners is clear when he says :

"Atrocious crimes have been committed again and again by sangokujin and other foreigners. We can expect them to riot in the event of a disastrous earthquake."

thomas · Apr 15, 2003, 18:10

Mr Ishihara - elected as governor last April - has previously drawn criticism for saying the Nanking Massacre, in which hundreds of thousands of Chinese were slaughtered by Japanese troops in the 1930s, never happened.

In Europe there are laws against holocaust deniers. In Japan you deny massacres and get re-elected.

Btw, take a look at these young people's replies when asked about Tokyo's gubernatorial election:

Ryuji Narikiyo, 23

"I am too lazy to go to a polling station, so I won't vote. Anyway, I like Shintaro Ishihara as a person, so it's OK with me if he gets re-elected. I am not sure exactly what he has done, but I just know that people see him as a reformer of Tokyo. I hope he can improve the life of Tokyoites, as long as he doesn't hike taxes and stops making us separate the trash any further."

Shunji Takahashi, 33

"I have never voted before because I don't think anyone has enough power to change things. They're all the same. Today, celebrities run as candidates but that's just for name effect. Shintaro Ishihara is no different.

Mika Maeno, 26

"I am not really interested in the election for the governor of Tokyo because I can barely handle my life at the moment. I can't think of politics right now.

Jun Miyamoto, 23

"I think Shintaro Ishihara is decent, although I don't have any special reason for saying so. But I don't really care if someone else is elected governor. I only wish that Tokyo will change more like Osaka.

Jack Miyoshi, 25

"I think Shintaro Ishihara is the nicest among the candidates. However, I don't give him 100% credit. I think he says so many things on TV but still I do not understand many of his ideas.

=> http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=popvox&id=366

Shinmeiryu · Apr 16, 2003, 01:50

That's a lot of unconcerned, careless, perhaps even ignorant youngins, and I'm a youngin saying that. Should Ishihara even make PM, I can really see Japan becoming a more gaijin-friendly nation.

senyonjusan · Apr 16, 2003, 03:23

I believe I read somewhere that the Japanese governments official possition is that the rape of Nanking never happened, though some of the biggest activists for Japanese acknowledgement are also Japanese

arnadstephen · Apr 16, 2003, 03:46

stops making us separate the trash any further.

--> Believe this or not, these issues actually can be what matters to most people !

--> Dening vast-war crimes comes further down !!

noyhauser · Apr 16, 2003, 09:31

I doubt he will become PM... his nationalistic beliefs will not fly in national politics. The South wont support him, especially hiroshima and Nagasaki where there is a significant anti war presence, and he wont get support from the United States, because a nationalist Japan really complicates things for their foriegn policy stance. The only chance that Ishihara has if there is a serious economic meltdown... but I cant see that happening either. Its easy to win a governership because you can just trash your opponent when you are in power, espcially ishihara who has a lot of support. But he goes on the national forum... he won't be able to outspend his opponent, and people will have to face the dark side of his policies.

naho · Apr 20, 2003, 23:06

It is very ashamed of us to have a governer like Shintaro Hishihara, although I am not citizen of Tokyo and I don't have a right to elect one. I must say he is very discriminative to foreigners as you can see from his comment on Nankin Masaccare, as well as very sexist as you can see his comment on older women in Japan. Imagine, if mayor of NYC made a same comment? (I understand their status is not equivalent but perhaps it is in sence of both of them are in the governing position of "a big=worldly well known city"). They won't be elected or they even push to be resigned from the position. Right? You can see how our concious regarding these issues are so low. Media won't pursue what he said is totally unforgivable. Most people just let it go...as, I don't know, but may be as just another comment he mistakenly made? Politicians are supposed to be very concious about what he/she say on public/non-public. And I hope them to believe what they actually say. If they say somehting totatlly wrong, even unconciously, I think they mean what they say. Besides, the attitude of him not apologizing about what he said publicly, make me so angry. And make me sad to think his image may give "how Japanese like" impression in other countries, when media broadcast them. How sad... and how sad we will likely to have this man for another term as a Governer of Tokyo, a capital of Japan.

名無し · Dec 15, 2004, 09:50

Papers on 4 TBS Employees Sent to Prosecutors over Ishihara Quotes

The police said they believe there is a low possibility that TBS employees intentionally forged or distorted the remarks, but were negligent in incorrectly reporting the remarks, according to sources close to the investigation.

To make a negative sentence into an affirmative one by cutting the original dialog 私は日韓合併の歴史を百パーセント正当化するつもりはない to 私は日韓合併の歴史を百パーセント正当化するつもり then adding a nonexistent だ at the end of the caption text, while media including their affiliate newspaper Mainichi had reported the original sentence correctly four days prior to the TV program. How unintentional (detailed info.)
Police does not choose to send files to prosecutors if they believe that defamation was unintentional.

It is not the scheme exclusive to TBS to conviniently edit the politician's comments to make him sound more facist&racist than he is: Example 1 Example 2

There is another incident that might help understanding the corporate culture of TBS.

budd · Dec 16, 2004, 08:28

i don't see any difference between him and guilani

名無し · Jun 27, 2006, 08:59

Originally Posted by 名無し

Papers on 4 TBS Employees Sent to Prosecutors over Ishihara Quotes

It is not the scheme exclusive to TBS to conviniently edit the politician's comments to make him sound more facist&racist than he is: Example 1 Example 2

Ishihara Reconciles with TBS over TV Caption Error Dispute

In November 2003, TBS ran in the TV program "Sunday Morning" a scene of Ishihara speaking at a gathering in October in which he said, "I totally do not intend to legitimatize Japan's annexation of the Korean Peninsula," but it put caption to the remark that said, "I totally intend to legitimatize."

"Liberal" media throughout the world has kept reporting fabrications and distortions about Japanese "militarist right-wing" politicians' comments, a recent example by BBC and New York Times pointed out in a related thread.
Other hate-Japan media includes the infamous red paper Asahi, Le Monde and S�ddeutsche Zeitung.

It is about time when people start to realize that some media feels nothing wrong about lying in order to achieve their goal.

名無し · Jul 27, 2006, 11:04

Originally Posted by 名無し

Papers on 4 TBS Employees Sent to Prosecutors over Ishihara Quotes

TBS did it again:

TBS Probed on Abe Shot in Show

The government is investigating a TV program by Tokyo Broadcasting System Inc. on the wartime Japanese germ warfare unit because it includes footage in which a photo of Chief Cabinet Secretary Shinzo Abe appears in the background, in a storeroom, officials said Wednesday.

Abe considered the front-runner to succeed Junichiro Koizumi as president of the ruling Liberal Democratic Party in September, has no connection with the notorious Unit 731.

Hiroyuki Nagashima · Jul 27, 2006, 11:26

Because TBS is brains of a chicken.

When TBS walks three steps, it forgets.

Apr 14, 2003, 12:50	#1
Shinmeiryu SCAR Join Date: Jul 30, 2002 Location: Southern CA Age: 28 Posts: 201	About Shintaro Ishihara... I hear he's running for another term as Governor of Tokyo again, is this true? And what are his chances of winning? Does he have enough power to further his political career after his run as Governor? (I'm hoping not...) As I've heard some stuff that would make me label him as a paranoid, xenophobic jerk.

Apr 14, 2003, 15:58	#2
Maciamo Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Jul 17, 2002 Location: Austrasia Posts: 6,647	I guess his chances are pretty good. He looks cool, like Bush. Both of them are fcked in their head, but most people care about the external impression first. That's how both were elected and could be re-elected. __________________ Over 100 destinations in the Japan Sightseeing Guide + detailed Tokyo Guide and Kyoto Guide Eupedia : Your Guide to Europe in English Read the "Maciamo FAQ" "What is the use of living, if it be not to strive for noble causes and to make this muddled world a better place for those who will live in it after we are gone?", Winston Churchill*.

Apr 14, 2003, 16:53	#3
thomas Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Mar 14, 2002 Posts: 4,209	Originally posted by Maciamo ...and could be re-elected. Ishihara re-elected governor of Tokyo in a landslide => http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/news/20030...dm025002c.html __________________ Remember what the dormouse said, feed your head, feed your head!

Apr 15, 2003, 17:45	#6
Maciamo Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Jul 17, 2002 Location: Austrasia Posts: 6,647	Yes, he is likely to succeed to Koizumi as PM. To know better what kind of person he is read this article of the BBC. His stance against foreigners is clear when he says : "Atrocious crimes have been committed again and again by sangokujin and other foreigners. We can expect them to riot in the event of a disastrous earthquake."

Apr 15, 2003, 18:10	#7
thomas Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Mar 14, 2002 Posts: 4,209	Mr Ishihara - elected as governor last April - has previously drawn criticism for saying the Nanking Massacre, in which hundreds of thousands of Chinese were slaughtered by Japanese troops in the 1930s, never happened. In Europe there are laws against holocaust deniers. In Japan you deny massacres and get re-elected. Btw, take a look at these young people's replies when asked about Tokyo's gubernatorial election: Ryuji Narikiyo, 23 "I am too lazy to go to a polling station, so I won't vote. Anyway, I like Shintaro Ishihara as a person, so it's OK with me if he gets re-elected. I am not sure exactly what he has done, but I just know that people see him as a reformer of Tokyo. I hope he can improve the life of Tokyoites, as long as he doesn't hike taxes and stops making us separate the trash any further." Shunji Takahashi, 33 "I have never voted before because I don't think anyone has enough power to change things. They're all the same. Today, celebrities run as candidates but that's just for name effect. Shintaro Ishihara is no different. Mika Maeno, 26 "I am not really interested in the election for the governor of Tokyo because I can barely handle my life at the moment. I can't think of politics right now. Jun Miyamoto, 23 "I think Shintaro Ishihara is decent, although I don't have any special reason for saying so. But I don't really care if someone else is elected governor. I only wish that Tokyo will change more like Osaka. Jack Miyoshi, 25 "I think Shintaro Ishihara is the nicest among the candidates. However, I don't give him 100% credit. I think he says so many things on TV but still I do not understand many of his ideas. => http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=popvox&id=366

Apr 14, 2003, 17:20	#4
Maciamo Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Jul 17, 2002 Location: Austrasia Posts: 6,647	Well, I hadn't chekced the news. So the clown has been re-elected yesterday. How wonderful...

Apr 14, 2003, 23:31	#5
noyhauser Regular Member Join Date: Feb 20, 2003 Age: 28 Posts: 361	be happy he is only running for the governership of Tokyo, rather than the whole nation.

Apr 16, 2003, 01:50	#8
Shinmeiryu SCAR Join Date: Jul 30, 2002 Location: Southern CA Age: 28 Posts: 201	That's a lot of unconcerned, careless, perhaps even ignorant youngins, and I'm a youngin saying that. Should Ishihara even make PM, I can really see Japan becoming a more gaijin-friendly nation.

Apr 16, 2003, 03:23	#9
senyonjusan Junior Member Join Date: Apr 10, 2003 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 7	I believe I read somewhere that the Japanese governments official possition is that the rape of Nanking never happened, though some of the biggest activists for Japanese acknowledgement are also Japanese

Apr 16, 2003, 03:46	#10
arnadstephen Banned Join Date: Oct 8, 2002 Location: Georgia Posts: 201	stops making us separate the trash any further. --> Believe this or not, these issues actually can be what matters to most people ! --> Dening vast-war crimes comes further down !!

Apr 16, 2003, 09:31	#11
noyhauser Regular Member Join Date: Feb 20, 2003 Age: 28 Posts: 361	I doubt he will become PM... his nationalistic beliefs will not fly in national politics. The South wont support him, especially hiroshima and Nagasaki where there is a significant anti war presence, and he wont get support from the United States, because a nationalist Japan really complicates things for their foriegn policy stance. The only chance that Ishihara has if there is a serious economic meltdown... but I cant see that happening either. Its easy to win a governership because you can just trash your opponent when you are in power, espcially ishihara who has a lot of support. But he goes on the national forum... he won't be able to outspend his opponent, and people will have to face the dark side of his policies.

Apr 20, 2003, 23:06	#12
naho Junior Member Join Date: Apr 20, 2003 Location: Miayazaki/Japan Age: 32 Posts: 6	It is very ashamed of us to have a governer like Shintaro Hishihara, although I am not citizen of Tokyo and I don't have a right to elect one. I must say he is very discriminative to foreigners as you can see from his comment on Nankin Masaccare, as well as very sexist as you can see his comment on older women in Japan. Imagine, if mayor of NYC made a same comment? (I understand their status is not equivalent but perhaps it is in sence of both of them are in the governing position of "a big=worldly well known city"). They won't be elected or they even push to be resigned from the position. Right? You can see how our concious regarding these issues are so low. Media won't pursue what he said is totally unforgivable. Most people just let it go...as, I don't know, but may be as just another comment he mistakenly made? Politicians are supposed to be very concious about what he/she say on public/non-public. And I hope them to believe what they actually say. If they say somehting totatlly wrong, even unconciously, I think they mean what they say. Besides, the attitude of him not apologizing about what he said publicly, make me so angry. And make me sad to think his image may give "how Japanese like" impression in other countries, when media broadcast them. How sad... and how sad we will likely to have this man for another term as a Governer of Tokyo, a capital of Japan.

Dec 15, 2004, 09:50	#13
名無し Regular Member Join Date: Mar 1, 2004 Posts: 566	Papers on 4 TBS Employees Sent to Prosecutors over Ishihara Quotes The police said they believe there is a low possibility that TBS employees intentionally forged or distorted the remarks, but were negligent in incorrectly reporting the remarks, according to sources close to the investigation. To make a negative sentence into an affirmative one by cutting the original dialog 私は日韓合併の歴史を百パーセント正当化するつもりはない to 私は日韓合併の歴史を百パーセント正当化するつもり then adding a nonexistent だ at the end of the caption text, while media including their affiliate newspaper Mainichi had reported the original sentence correctly four days prior to the TV program. How unintentional (detailed info.) Police does not choose to send files to prosecutors if they believe that defamation was unintentional. It is not the scheme exclusive to TBS to conviniently edit the politician's comments to make him sound more facist&racist than he is: Example 1 Example 2 There is another incident that might help understanding the corporate culture of TBS.

Dec 16, 2004, 08:28	#14
budd __________ Join Date: Jul 10, 2003 Posts: 1,972	i don't see any difference between him and guilani __________________ ttp://www.tcvb.or.jp/

Jun 27, 2006, 08:59	#15
名無し Regular Member Join Date: Mar 1, 2004 Posts: 566	Originally Posted by 名無し Papers on 4 TBS Employees Sent to Prosecutors over Ishihara Quotes It is not the scheme exclusive to TBS to conviniently edit the politician's comments to make him sound more facist&racist than he is: Example 1 Example 2 Ishihara Reconciles with TBS over TV Caption Error Dispute In November 2003, TBS ran in the TV program "Sunday Morning" a scene of Ishihara speaking at a gathering in October in which he said, "I totally do not intend to legitimatize Japan's annexation of the Korean Peninsula," but it put caption to the remark that said, "I totally intend to legitimatize." "Liberal" media throughout the world has kept reporting fabrications and distortions about Japanese "militarist right-wing" politicians' comments, a recent example by BBC and New York Times pointed out in a related thread. Other hate-Japan media includes the infamous red paper Asahi, Le Monde and S�ddeutsche Zeitung. It is about time when people start to realize that some media feels nothing wrong about lying in order to achieve their goal.

Jul 27, 2006, 11:04	#16
名無し Regular Member Join Date: Mar 1, 2004 Posts: 566	Originally Posted by 名無し Papers on 4 TBS Employees Sent to Prosecutors over Ishihara Quotes TBS did it again: TBS Probed on Abe Shot in Show The government is investigating a TV program by Tokyo Broadcasting System Inc. on the wartime Japanese germ warfare unit because it includes footage in which a photo of Chief Cabinet Secretary Shinzo Abe appears in the background, in a storeroom, officials said Wednesday. Abe considered the front-runner to succeed Junichiro Koizumi as president of the ruling Liberal Democratic Party in September, has no connection with the notorious Unit 731.

Jul 27, 2006, 11:26	#17
Hiroyuki Nagashima TAN Join Date: Jan 18, 2005 Location: NIPPON/FUKUOKA Age: 42 Posts: 5,957	Because TBS is brains of a chicken. When TBS walks three steps, it forgets.

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