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Old May 19, 2006, 04:29   #1
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Romaji Chat!

A general chat for beginners who don't have the feture or typeing in Japanese, or you just want to have conversations in romaji.

RULES:

1. DO NOT type in hiragana/katakana/kanji
2. ALWAYS type in romaji (if you want to type something in English, put it in perenthesis)
3. Have fun!
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Old May 19, 2006, 04:34   #2
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Konnichiwa. sugoku akiaki desu.... saa, nani o shiteru ka.
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Old May 19, 2006, 05:43   #3
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tomiisan, konnnichiha.
otanjoubiha dou deshitaka?

watasiha, ima, shukudai wo shiteiru beki nanoni, nazeka nakanaka hajimeraremasen.

chinamini, roomaji wo tukawanai hou ga ii desu yo. hiragana ya kanji wo naraitai deshou? soreni roomaji wo yomu to me ga itaku narimasu yo.
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Old May 19, 2006, 06:10   #4
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kyatto-san, tomii-san, konnichiha.

watashi no nihongo ga mada mada desu demo kyatto ni hitotsu shitsumon arimasu. doshite kyatto wa nihongo wo benkyou shimasu ka?

yappari kanji wa benri desu ne?
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Old May 19, 2006, 10:27   #5
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Originally Posted by KrazyKat
chinamini, roomaji wo tukawanai hou ga ii desu yo. hiragana ya kanji wo naraitai deshou? soreni roomaji wo yomu to me ga itaku narimasu yo.
....Exactly. Roomaji wa desu ne, yominikui shi, ii renshuu ni narimasen yo ne. Jissai no nihongo wo manabitakattara, kana/kanji mo manabanakutewa naranai no sa. Sore ni, ro-maji bakari tukatteiru to, hatsuon wa waruku nacchau yo, kitto... To iu wake de, boku mo mou, kono roomaji kaiwa wo sanka shinakunaru zo~

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Old May 19, 2006, 12:17   #6
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tomii-san. roomaji-chat ha yakutatu deha nai to omou yo. anata ha hiragana ga yomeru deshou? moshi kanji igai kaitara, kono sureddo ha motto yakutatu hazu deshou? hontou ni.

boku mo Gaijinian to issho ni omou.
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Old May 19, 2006, 20:14   #7
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Originally Posted by Fehrant
arimasu. doshite kyatto wa nihongo wo benkyou shimasu ka?
ironna riyuu ga arimasuga, ichiban no riyuu ha yahari tanosii kara desu. nanimo dekinakatta hajimeta bakari no tokimo, hajimete manga wo chousen shita toki mo, sousite iroiro na koto wo yomeru ima mo totemo tanosii kara desu. demo mina-san no youni kore ijou kono sure ni sanka shitakunainode korede shiturei shimasu.
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Originally Posted by yorkii
tomii-san. roomaji-chat ha yakutatu deha nai to omou yo. anata ha hiragana ga yomeru deshou? moshi kanji igai kaitara, kono sureddo ha motto yakutatu hazu deshou? hontou ni.
boku mo Gaijinian to issho ni omou.
Watashi mo sou wa omoimasuyone.
[Romaji chatto wo onegai]to kiku to yoku shiranai gaijin
ga [narubeku kantanna bunshou ni shimashoune] no koto wo
jissai ni hanashite iru you ni omoimasu. Demo, kono kaiwa wa
Tomii san ni wa mou taihen sugimasune.
Soshite watashi mo romaji wo yomeru no ga daikirai desu.
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Old May 19, 2006, 22:02   #9
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Originally Posted by Tomii515
A general chat for beginners who don't have the feture or typeing in Japanese, or you just want to have conversations in romaji.
RULES:
Pasokon ni ha Nihongo IME nado ga haitte inai hito ha enryou shinaide
dou shitara ii ka, sore shikata no ka to iu fuu ni kiite kudasaine.
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doinkies mo sou omoimasu yo. Ima, Tomii-san wa kana to kanji no yomikata o benkyou shinakereba narimasen. Tomii-san wa mou hiragana o yomemasu deshou? Katakana mo benkyou shite kudasai, soshite katakana o zenbu yomemasu to kakemasu toki, kanji ni susunde kudasai. Jikan ga areba, Tomii-san no pasokon ni Nihongo no IME o insutooru shite kudasai.
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Basically what we're saying is that using ro-maji will not help you in the long run, and highly recommend that you install Japanese, and use kana and maybe some simple kanji.
Ro-maji will also affect your pronunciation (just think of how Americans say words like karaoke (kerioki), kamikaze (kamakazi), To(u)kyo(u) (Toki-o)...). Ii desu ka?
It is just better to learn "real" Japanese, you know what I'm saying?
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Sou desu yo. Hiragana to katakana to kanji o tsukawanakereba, zenbu wasurechau yo.
(Yes - if you don't use hiragana and katakana and kanji, you'll forget all of it.)
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Originally Posted by doinkies
doinkies mo sou omoimasu yo. Ima, Tomii-san wa kana to kanji no yomikata o benkyou shinakereba narimasen. Tomii-san wa mou hiragana o yomemasu deshou? Katakana mo benkyou shite kudasai, soshite katakana o zenbu yomemasu to kakemasu toki, kanji ni susunde kudasai. Jikan ga areba, Tomii-san no pasokon ni Nihongo no IME o insutooru shite kudasai.
Kare ha nihongo no yomi kaki ga yoku dekimasu. Tabun kono thread ga, hoka no hito ni ha hajimarimashita. Shimerareru beki deshou.

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Originally Posted by Gaijinian
Ro-maji will also affect your pronunciation (just think of how Americans say words like karaoke (kerioki), kamikaze (kamakazi), To(u)kyo(u) (Toki-o)...). Ii desu ka?
That's probably the only advantadge I have when learning japanese, because my native language is Spanish, therefore while I don't claim I sound like a native, pronounciation is certainly not that big of a deal either.

I am merely a beginner, but I don't see how using roumaji will affect his pronounciation so long as he keeps is mind 'i' sounds like "ee", "a" sounds like "ah", and so on.

kyatto, thanks for the reply. I think I got the overall idea of what you were trying to say. However, as it has been pointed out that roumaji chat is not productive enough for learning japanese, we'll continue it on some other occasion with kanji where I'll most likely not understand.
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Originally Posted by Fehrant
That's probably the only advantadge I have when learning japanese, because my native language is Spanish, therefore while I don't claim I sound like a native, pronounciation is certainly not that big of a deal either.
I am merely a beginner, but I don't see how using roumaji will affect his pronounciation so long as he keeps is mind 'i' sounds like "ee", "a" sounds like "ah", and so on.
Sou kamo shirenaishi, chigau kamo shirenaine. Dono romaji wo tsukau koto ni yoru deshou. Mondai naku kihon no hatsuon ga dekite kara, tokidoki romaji wo tsukatte mo OK da to omoimasu. Shikashi, hatsuon shikata omoidashinagara, nihongo wo benkyou shitai no nara, nihongo wo tsukatta hou ga ii desune.

Tatoeba, Nihon de ha oshiete iru romaji no kakikata ha chotto chigau to omoimasu. Hitsotsu ha, [h (shuu)] janakute [y (shyu)] to iu tsukau you ni omoimasu. Iroirona romaji no type ga aru kara [Shyu] ya [tch] nado wo miru dake de, hatsuon shikata no ka amari rikai dekimasen ne.
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Sou desu ne, Elizabeth-san. Moshi, nihongo ga ryuuchou ni hanasetara, ro-maji wo tukattemo kamaimasen yone. Demo!, nihongo ga dekitara, ro-maji wo tukau riyuu nante nai'n deshou ne...
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It's hilarious how everyone keeps going on and on in romaji about why going on and on in romaji is such a bad idea.
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It is, I guess...
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Yeah, I keep wondering why y'all are even bothering with it.
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Originally Posted by Glenn
Yeah, I keep wondering why y'all are even bothering with it.
Zuibun hisashiburi ni romaji ni tsuite no wadai dakara.

Demo, yahari, zannenagara hontou ni nihongo de kakenai
hito no uchi de, daremo sanka shite inai ne....
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そのようですね。 (sorry, couldn't bring myself to do it)
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Yeah, I keep wondering why y'all are even bothering with it.
For those that are on their first stages of learning, roumaji is probably the only thing they can afford to do to practice conversational patterns. On the other hand, if you properly use online tools kanji becomes easier to understand as opposed to roumaji.

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I was talking about the people who are advanced and keep saying that romaji is awful but continue to participate in the discussion using romaji, not the beginners.
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Um... kindness, then?
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like i said, if you don't have he feature of typeing in Japanese, which I dont, type ina romaji. i made this chat for people who cant type in japanese....
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