FYI: Treaty On The Non-Profiliration Of Nuclear Weapons

TuskCracker · Dec 20, 2006, 02:13

TREATY ON THE NON-PROLIFIRATION OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS
Negotiations on non-proliferation of nuclear weapons started during 1950's. The Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty was finally concluded in 1968, came into force in 1970 and up to this date was signed by 187 states.

-> Three countries did not sign; India, Pakistan, and Israel

-> North Korea and Iran did sign !

TuskCracker · Dec 20, 2006, 05:37

TREATY ON THE NON-PROLIFIRATION OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS
Negotiations on non-proliferation of nuclear weapons started during 1950's. The Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty was finally concluded in 1968, came into force in 1970 and up to this date was signed by 187 states

.

-> Isreal didn't sign. I understand that.

-> Why India and Pakistan get away with it

TuskCracker · Dec 20, 2006, 07:32

I do not want to hear;

"ISRAEL" has nuclear weapons then EGYPT, SAUDIA ARABIA, IRAN, TURKEY, DUBAI, MOROCCO, and ... on and on..., can have nuclear weapons.

Think long-and-hard about this (Shiite versus Sunni hatred for one). !

senseiman · Dec 20, 2006, 12:52

The text of the treaty is here:

http://www.un.org/events/npt2005/npttreaty.html

It is important to remember that mere signature on a treaty doesn't create any international legal obligations. Ratification is the process that makes the treaty binding on a state.

craftsman · Dec 20, 2006, 13:03

When did Iran get nuclear weapons? That is the presumption isn't it?

sabro · Dec 20, 2006, 14:12

Treaties don't always contain behavior. Remember all the treaties broken before the start of the last World War.

Void · Dec 21, 2006, 02:33

Originally Posted by JackInBox

I do not want to hear;
"ISRAEL" has nuclear weapons then EGYPT, SAUDIA ARABIA, IRAN, TURKEY, DUBAI, MOROCCO, and ... on and on..., can have nuclear weapons.
Think long-and-hard about this (Shiite versus Sunni hatred for one). !

then get yourself a pair of ear-plugs...

TuskCracker · Dec 21, 2006, 05:00

When did Iran get nuclear weapons? That is the presumption isn't it?

IRAN is hiding nuclear technology that is banned by the treaty.

IRAN is "faking" civilian nuclear power, to hide the technology to build an atomic bomb.

IRAN has lied to weapon inspectors, many many times in the past. Credibility of receiving the truth, from IRAN, is very low.

IRAN is doing Unranium enrichment that only makes sense if you want to make an atomic bomb (nuclear reactor less strong enrichment, atomic bomb very high level of enrichment).

craftsman · Dec 21, 2006, 15:01

JackInBox, so how close would you say Iran is to making a nuclear weapon?

TuskCracker · Dec 21, 2006, 23:07

JackInBox, so how close would you say Iran is to making a nuclear weapon?

You have asked "the million dollar question".

North Korea and rogue states move fast on stuff like this. "Safety" is n-o-t a big issue for them. A couple scientist and engineers dead or sick with radiation is n-o-t a concern !

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craftsman · Dec 21, 2006, 23:13

JackInBox, would ten years sound about right?

TuskCracker · Dec 23, 2006, 04:26

JackInBox, would ten years sound about right?

OK,Three Points

01) Look how fast North-Korea went from fuel-rods to a Nuke

02) They guy is right, Iran will move faster, ignoring Western culture of safety

03) ARAB culture was (past-tense) for creating a lot of Mathematics (ahead of Europe. I have a college degree in math)

craftsman · Dec 23, 2006, 23:09

Originally Posted by JackInBox

OK,Three Points
01) Look how fast North-Korea went from fuel-rods to a Nuke
02) They guy is right, Iran will move faster, ignoring Western culture of safety
03) ARAB culture was (past-tense) for creating a lot of Mathematics (ahead of Europe. I have a college degree in math)

So even with a college degree in math would you say ten years?

By the way, for point 3 about arab culture - Iran isn't an arab country!

Dec 20, 2006, 02:13	#1
TuskCracker AmericaFlorida Join Date: Jan 17, 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 528	FYI: Treaty On The Non-Profiliration Of Nuclear Weapons TREATY ON THE NON-PROLIFIRATION OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS Negotiations on non-proliferation of nuclear weapons started during 1950's. The Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty was finally concluded in 1968, came into force in 1970 and up to this date was signed by 187 states. -> Three countries did not sign; India, Pakistan, and Israel -> North Korea and Iran did sign ! __________________ NewYorkCity/WashingtonDC/Bonn/London/Tokyo, the rest is mullet wrap

Dec 20, 2006, 05:37	#2
TuskCracker AmericaFlorida Join Date: Jan 17, 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 528	India/Pakistan/Israel; Treaty on Nuclear Weapons TREATY ON THE NON-PROLIFIRATION OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS Negotiations on non-proliferation of nuclear weapons started during 1950's. The Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty was finally concluded in 1968, came into force in 1970 and up to this date was signed by 187 states . -> Isreal didn't sign. I understand that. -> Why India and Pakistan get away with it

Dec 20, 2006, 07:32	#3
TuskCracker AmericaFlorida Join Date: Jan 17, 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 528	Israel;Treaty On The Non-Prolifiration Of Nuclear Weapons I do not want to hear; "ISRAEL" has nuclear weapons then EGYPT, SAUDIA ARABIA, IRAN, TURKEY, DUBAI, MOROCCO, and ... on and on..., can have nuclear weapons. *Think long-and-hard about this (Shiite versus Sunni hatred for one). !*

Dec 20, 2006, 12:52	#4
senseiman Regular Member Join Date: Jun 24, 2003 Location: canadian Age: 33 Posts: 801	The text of the treaty is here: http://www.un.org/events/npt2005/npttreaty.html It is important to remember that mere signature on a treaty doesn't create any international legal obligations. Ratification is the process that makes the treaty binding on a state. __________________ 祇園精舎の鐘の聲、諸行無常の響あり。娑羅雙樹の花の色、盛者必衰のことわりをあらはす。おごれる人も久しからず、唯春の夜の夢のごとし。たけき者も遂にほろびぬ、偏に風の前の塵に同じ。 Last edited by senseiman; Dec 21, 2006 at 05:54.

Dec 20, 2006, 14:12	#6
sabro Regular Member Join Date: Apr 23, 2004 Location: Near Lake Arrowhead, CA Age: 45 Posts: 1,536	Treaties don't always contain behavior. Remember all the treaties broken before the start of the last World War. __________________ "Nolo Cuspis Causa Me."

Dec 20, 2006, 13:03	#5
craftsman ************ Join Date: Sep 24, 2006 Location: Yaku island, East China Sea Posts: 262	When did Iran get nuclear weapons? That is the presumption isn't it?

Dec 21, 2006, 02:33	#7
Void born in the USSR Join Date: Mar 20, 2005 Location: Russian Federation Age: 32 Posts: 318 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by JackInBox I do not want to hear; "ISRAEL" has nuclear weapons then EGYPT, SAUDIA ARABIA, IRAN, TURKEY, DUBAI, MOROCCO, and ... on and on..., can have nuclear weapons. *Think long-and-hard about this (Shiite versus Sunni hatred for one). !* then get yourself a pair of ear-plugs...

Dec 21, 2006, 05:00	#8
TuskCracker AmericaFlorida Join Date: Jan 17, 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 528	When did Iran get nuclear weapons? That is the presumption isn't it? IRAN is hiding nuclear technology that is banned by the treaty. IRAN is "faking" civilian nuclear power, to hide the technology to build an atomic bomb. IRAN has lied to weapon inspectors, many many times in the past. Credibility of receiving the truth, from IRAN, is very low. IRAN is doing Unranium enrichment that only makes sense if you want to make an atomic bomb (nuclear reactor less strong enrichment, atomic bomb very high level of enrichment).

Dec 21, 2006, 15:01	#9
craftsman ************ Join Date: Sep 24, 2006 Location: Yaku island, East China Sea Posts: 262	JackInBox, so how close would you say Iran is to making a nuclear weapon?

Dec 21, 2006, 23:07	#10
TuskCracker AmericaFlorida Join Date: Jan 17, 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 528	Iran Nuclear Program JackInBox, so how close would you say Iran is to making a nuclear weapon? You have asked "the million dollar question". North Korea and rogue states move fast on stuff like this. "Safety" is n-o-t a big issue for them. A couple scientist and engineers dead or sick with radiation is n-o-t a concern ! ,

Dec 21, 2006, 23:13	#11
craftsman ************ Join Date: Sep 24, 2006 Location: Yaku island, East China Sea Posts: 262	JackInBox, would ten years sound about right?

Dec 23, 2006, 04:26	#12
TuskCracker AmericaFlorida Join Date: Jan 17, 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 528	Treaty On The Non-Profiliration Of Nuclear Weapons JackInBox, would ten years sound about right? OK,Three Points 01) Look how fast North-Korea went from fuel-rods to a Nuke 02) They guy is right, Iran will move faster, ignoring Western culture of safety 03) ARAB culture was (past-tense) for creating a lot of Mathematics (ahead of Europe. I have a college degree in math)

Dec 23, 2006, 23:09	#13
craftsman ************ Join Date: Sep 24, 2006 Location: Yaku island, East China Sea Posts: 262	Originally Posted by JackInBox OK,Three Points 01) Look how fast North-Korea went from fuel-rods to a Nuke 02) They guy is right, Iran will move faster, ignoring Western culture of safety 03) ARAB culture was (past-tense) for creating a lot of Mathematics (ahead of Europe. I have a college degree in math) So even with a college degree in math would you say ten years? By the way, for point 3 about arab culture - Iran isn't an arab country!

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