J-Pop question...

StandAlone2323 · Jul 4, 2007, 00:47

ok, in J-Pop, i've noticed something... rather odd. and what i mean by that is that songs will do something like this...

Oh baby
今夜はいらない　キャンドルライトディナーと
SweetなトークにはBye bye
君が欲しい　ただそれだけUnderstand?
誤解しないで!　これがmyスタンス
So baby Take me 下からLick me
すご技Make me say　「Yes! Yes! Yes!」
奥まで　もっと奥まで
It’s S E X　Come on
だから満足させてRound 1
Round 2 Round 3 and Round 4 Here we go
It’s K O D A K U M I だから
Climaxもっと頂戴
もう一回　もう一回
何度もしよう　今夜一杯
Time out なんて　必要ないから
今夜は朝までDo do do me all night

why are there broken pieces of english in it? correct if im wrong, but i dont think there are a ton of english speakers in japan, so why do they do that? please, someone clarify this for me.

RockLee · Jul 4, 2007, 01:06

It's "hip" to use English. Or at least they think it is.

Ryuusei · Jul 4, 2007, 01:12

Its not just in Jpop that they do it though =P It happens in a lot of genre's and other countries in Asia. Like RockLee said, they think its cool to use English, even if it isn't always correct. (Ever seen some of the shirts and other fashionable clothes that come out of Japan? They have lots of EngRish. XD I think its cute really.)

yukio_michael · Jul 4, 2007, 01:34

Some are better at English than others, Heartsdales grew up in New York, so their English is good... Bennie K, not so good... Chieco Kawabe is actually studying English so she writes English on her blog, but only a little bit in her songs... Namie Amuro uses sparse English in her songs as well...

For a while HALCALI used a bit of English, but this has lessened a great deal, probably because they've been taught that knowing English just isn't cool, when you are Japanse...

Oh Ps. Nice Koda Kumi "Ero Kawaii" lyrics there....

(pps. I also forgot Tomoko Kawase who attempts to use English in her work quite a bit, and may or may not be also studying it...)

Indietee · Jul 4, 2007, 03:46

Sometimes, it sounds better to use English instead of Japanese.
All Japanese lyrics will be like Enka( Japanese traditonal song ).

Well I am amazed at the lyrcs of Koda Kumi...its very sexual for japanese people.

frostyg02uk · Jul 4, 2007, 04:00

Haha i remember a song by a popular J-pop singer and she was dueting with some rap group and half way through the song the rapper start using english and the things they say they are going to do to her is very...degrading i thought. and it made me think...does she know what they just said?!!

yukio_michael · Jul 4, 2007, 12:23

Originally Posted by Indietee

Well I am amazed at the lyrcs of Koda Kumi...its very sexual for japanese people.

The Japanese aren't sexual? And just because you might not be able to understand the gist of songs in Japanese, many of them are very heavy in sexual overtones.

**Dutch Baka** · Jul 4, 2007, 15:55

Originally Posted by yukio_michael

The Japanese aren't sexual? And just because you might not be able to understand the gist of songs in Japanese, many of them are very heavy in sexual overtones.

Smap - Baby bang bang bang....
DJ ozma - Bounce with me

SushiShin · Jul 4, 2007, 16:49

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86iUu-9qfIo
Sorry i couldn't resist the nice music but i think BLOW BLOW has a other mention here

yukio_michael · Jul 4, 2007, 16:56

Here's more information about the "ero kawaii" style... It mentions the popular magazine CanCam, which is a portmanteau of the English Words, "I Can Campus", meaning, I can be a campus leader... think of it as Sorority-Japan.

http://www.pliink.com/mt/marxy/archives/000988.html

excerpt:

First, the Ero Kawaii ("erotic cute") crew - exemplified by butter caramel squash Koda Kumi, the magazine ViVi, and the popular lingerie catalog Peach John. These are girls who do not necessarily care about finding boyfriends, because boys have never shown much interest in them to start with. Japanese guys don't like too much skin - they prefer the demure, conservative beauty of Ebi-chan, remember - so the Ero Kawaii crew make up for it by the self-gratifying passage into softly aggressive outfits that leave a 20% pie piece to the imagination. I hate using the term "ero kawaii" - feels like I got some memo from Dentsu and am explaining Japanese "cool" to you in Fall 2005 - but I think it is important to realize how attracting boys is not at the core of the controversial look. Also for reference, these girls - like their Can Cam second-cousins - want to become very wealthy, just not necessarily through the economic transaction of marriage.

Oh yes, and nobody has mentioned the Onyanko Club yet...

Jul 4, 2007, 00:47	#1
StandAlone2323 ~tanoshii Join Date: Jun 7, 2007 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 47	J-Pop question... ok, in J-Pop, i've noticed something... rather odd. and what i mean by that is that songs will do something like this... Oh baby 今夜はいらない　キャンドルライトディナーと SweetなトークにはBye bye 君が欲しい　ただそれだけUnderstand? 誤解しないで!　これがmyスタンス So baby Take me 下からLick me すご技Make me say　「Yes! Yes! Yes!」奥まで　もっと奥まで It’s S E X　Come on だから満足させてRound 1 Round 2 Round 3 and Round 4 Here we go It’s K O D A K U M I だから Climaxもっと頂戴もう一回　もう一回何度もしよう　今夜一杯 Time out なんて　必要ないから今夜は朝までDo do do me all night why are there broken pieces of english in it? correct if im wrong, but i dont think there are a ton of english speakers in japan, so why do they do that? please, someone clarify this for me. __________________ 倖田來未 Kingdom:2008年1月30日

Jul 4, 2007, 01:06	#2
RockLee Hullu Join Date: Apr 22, 2004 Location: Espoo Age: 26 Posts: 3,084	It's "hip" to use English. Or at least they think it is. __________________ ~ Parempi hullu kuin tylsä - Better crazy than boring ~ http://www.fin-style.be/blog -> My Blog about Finland and other random thingies.

Jul 4, 2007, 01:34	#4
yukio_michael Koyaniskatsi Join Date: Mar 8, 2005 Location: Pittsburgh, Penn. Age: 38 Posts: 1,990	Some are better at English than others, Heartsdales grew up in New York, so their English is good... Bennie K, not so good... Chieco Kawabe is actually studying English so she writes English on her blog, but only a little bit in her songs... Namie Amuro uses sparse English in her songs as well... For a while HALCALI used a bit of English, but this has lessened a great deal, probably because they've been taught that knowing English just isn't cool, when you are Japanse... Oh Ps. Nice Koda Kumi "Ero Kawaii" lyrics there.... (pps. I also forgot Tomoko Kawase who attempts to use English in her work quite a bit, and may or may not be also studying it...) __________________ (flickr: pgh, japan & korea, santa cruz ) (blog: eyesonthewires) (j-rock) Our greatest pretenses are built up not to hide the evil and the ugly in us, but our emptiness. The hardest thing to hide is something that is not there. -Eric Hoffer. Last edited by yukio_michael; Jul 5, 2007 at 01:22.

Jul 4, 2007, 12:23	#7
yukio_michael Koyaniskatsi Join Date: Mar 8, 2005 Location: Pittsburgh, Penn. Age: 38 Posts: 1,990	Originally Posted by Indietee Well I am amazed at the lyrcs of Koda Kumi...its very sexual for japanese people. The Japanese aren't sexual? And just because you might not be able to understand the gist of songs in Japanese, many of them are very heavy in sexual overtones.

Jul 4, 2007, 15:55	#8
Dutch Baka .... who cares? :( Join Date: Feb 5, 2005 Location: Kobe, Rokko Age: 24 Posts: 4,743 Blog Entries: 12	Originally Posted by yukio_michael The Japanese aren't sexual? And just because you might not be able to understand the gist of songs in Japanese, many of them are very heavy in sexual overtones. Smap - Baby bang bang bang.... DJ ozma - Bounce with me __________________ My website: Kobe city info and my PM Forum Rules - J-Music Forum Rules - FAQ - Calendar Write an article for Jref - Reputation points

Jul 4, 2007, 01:12	#3
Ryuusei Junior Member Join Date: Jul 3, 2007 Posts: 5	Its not just in Jpop that they do it though =P It happens in a lot of genre's and other countries in Asia. Like RockLee said, they think its cool to use English, even if it isn't always correct. (Ever seen some of the shirts and other fashionable clothes that come out of Japan? They have lots of EngRish. XD I think its cute really.)

Jul 4, 2007, 03:46	#5
Indietee Regular Member Join Date: Jul 3, 2007 Location: Venice CA Posts: 15	Sometimes, it sounds better to use English instead of Japanese. All Japanese lyrics will be like Enka( Japanese traditonal song ). Well I am amazed at the lyrcs of Koda Kumi...its very sexual for japanese people.

Jul 4, 2007, 04:00	#6
frostyg02uk Regular Member Join Date: Jun 28, 2007 Location: Manchester Age: 24 Posts: 360	Haha i remember a song by a popular J-pop singer and she was dueting with some rap group and half way through the song the rapper start using english and the things they say they are going to do to her is very...degrading i thought. and it made me think...does she know what they just said?!!

Jul 4, 2007, 16:49	#9
SushiShin Banned Join Date: Jan 15, 2007 Location: アントウェルペン Posts: 1,204 Blog Entries: 8	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86iUu-9qfIo Sorry i couldn't resist the nice music but i think BLOW BLOW has a other mention here

Jul 4, 2007, 16:56	#10
yukio_michael Koyaniskatsi Join Date: Mar 8, 2005 Location: Pittsburgh, Penn. Age: 38 Posts: 1,990	Here's more information about the "ero kawaii" style... It mentions the popular magazine CanCam, which is a portmanteau of the English Words, "I Can Campus", meaning, I can be a campus leader... think of it as Sorority-Japan. http://www.pliink.com/mt/marxy/archives/000988.html excerpt: First, the Ero Kawaii ("erotic cute") crew - exemplified by butter caramel squash Koda Kumi, the magazine ViVi, and the popular lingerie catalog Peach John. These are girls who do not necessarily care about finding boyfriends, because boys have never shown much interest in them to start with. Japanese guys don't like too much skin - they prefer the demure, conservative beauty of Ebi-chan, remember - so the Ero Kawaii crew make up for it by the self-gratifying passage into softly aggressive outfits that leave a 20% pie piece to the imagination. I hate using the term "ero kawaii" - feels like I got some memo from Dentsu and am explaining Japanese "cool" to you in Fall 2005 - but I think it is important to realize how attracting boys is not at the core of the controversial look. Also for reference, these girls - like their Can Cam second-cousins - want to become very wealthy, just not necessarily through the economic transaction of marriage. Oh yes, and nobody has mentioned the Onyanko Club yet...

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