Ehoba no shounin desu ka?

philupthetank86 · Jul 16, 2003, 07:24

that would be too cool if i could find a jehovah's witness in japan. ive been a fan of japan since i was 10 or so, and now five years later i became a jehovah's witness. i know it wouldnt be to hard to find a japanese JW since 1 out of 578 of the population are. oh well its worth trying.

neko_girl22 · Jul 24, 2003, 18:14

hai--- Ehoba no shounin desu---!

Hi philupthetank86 Kyodai

I'm not Japanese though, a kiwi married to a Japanese, living in Japan.

If you're in Japan, you're welcome to come and visit!

philupthetank86 · Jul 25, 2003, 05:08

well i dont live in japan but i hope to move there some time after i graduate. i want to move to a place that is cold all the time, like hokkaido, to me, the summer means death and the winter means life, that philosophy just came to me after my usagichan died in the summer heat,
i dont know, i would just much rather die of freezing that to die of heat. plus, after watching the anime saikano i want to go to hokkaido even more, after seeing what it was like.

neko_girl22 · Jul 25, 2003, 07:05

I've heard Hokkaido is rather like New Zealand so it must be beautiful ha ha! I plan to go there in winter - to the amazing ice festival (huge ice castles etc etc)

I live in the south of Kyushu - Kagoshima prefecture. It's kind of subtropical (palm trees etc) and soooo beautiful but VERY HOT-! It's 34。C everyday and HUMID, but it will rise to about 39 next month. Summer lasts through to October I've heard.
The heat is pretty opressive, but I prefer it to cold because I am 寒がり- (samugari) I always have cold feet! Sounds like you are 暑がり - atsugari! (person who likes it cold)

Perhaps , if you want Witness contacts in Hokkaido, I might be able to ask my friend who lived in Sapporo for a year......?

philupthetank86 · Aug 13, 2003, 17:05

i need to move to japan, i also need to learn the piano and learn german, but for now i will learn japanese,

jigen · Aug 26, 2003, 10:04

quite funny- when i was living in japan the jehovahs witnesses once came to my door and asked me if was interested in joining-when i said that im a roman catholic- it scared them off somehow...well ""veni ignem mittere in terram"!(Luk.12,49), I say...but still they even had a church built in the touhoku region as i got to know: in some places they are quite strong in japan...so not bad for you at all- philupthetank86...

jigen · Aug 26, 2003, 10:06

Originally posted by jigen
quite funny- when i was living in japan the jehovahs witnesses once came to my door and asked me if was interested in joining-when i said that im a roman catholic- it scared them off somehow...well "veni ignem mittere in terram!"(Luk.12,49), I say...but still they even had a church built in the touhoku region as i got to know: in some places they are quite strong in japan...so not bad for you at all- philupthetank86...

jigen · Aug 26, 2003, 10:07

Originally posted by jigen quite funny- when i was living in japan the jehovahs witnesses once came to my door and asked me if was interested in joining-when i said that im a roman catholic- it scared them off somehow...well "veni ignem mittere in terram!"(Luk.12,49), I say...but still they even had a church built in the touhoku region as i got to know: in some places they are quite strong in japan...so not bad for you at all- philupthetank86... good luck to you!

philupthetank86 · Aug 26, 2003, 10:07

why did you repeat your self?

jigen · Aug 26, 2003, 10:09

sorry-im not used to the posting sys here-but christ-you are pretty quick to reply indeed...

philupthetank86 · Aug 26, 2003, 10:11

yeah my yahoo messenger alerts me when i get an email, the email telling me that japan forum has updated a topic that i was in,

jigen · Aug 26, 2003, 10:14

well, (this is like chatting) i havent found out yet where you can delete your own message...(seemed to have posted too often) : ) (also-dont know where the emoticons are here...)

jigen · Aug 26, 2003, 10:23

oh btw i know german pretty well-wie gehts?demo nihongo no hou ga ii n ja nai desuka?

Mandylion · Aug 26, 2003, 10:25

Most people in Japan are very aware of any regional Jehovah's Witnesses. This is mainly because they don't take kindly to the missionary work where people come to their door to talk about it. I'm not saying this to put you down, but when you get to Japan, if there are any like-minded people in the area, someone will know where to find them (mainly because they try and avoid them). Good luck with the piano and German!

philupthetank86 · Sep 2, 2003, 11:08

yeah, im going to learn german in college, some day, right now i am learning the paino and doing pretty well. but more importantly i want to learn japanese because i want to spend my post highschool years in japan, i want to go to college in japan, ach. plus also. when i learn japanese completely i can learn german through this website http://home.hiroshima-u.ac.jp/iwakat...t/online_e.htm
i just wish i could make contact with some of my br�der in japan.

doudesuka · Sep 15, 2003, 18:55

philupthetank86
http://www.jwic.com/historyj.htm

here is a site that maybe interesting.

doudesuka · Sep 15, 2003, 19:08

jigen, look at the bottom right opposite of the flag you see. It says edit.. Click on that and it will give you a choice to delete.

Also, look towards the bottom of this screen.
There's a box on the left. It says forum rules. On the right hand side you will see smiles. Just click on that and a screen will appear. choose your emotion.

philupthetank86, you are quite an ambitious person. The advice I must give you is be reasonable in your expectations of what Japan will offer you. There are many great things then there is things you might learn the hard way.

Everything you think is common sense to you is not to them.
They have a different way of looking at things. I am just telling you from my experience of living here. It's great for the culture lesson and stimulating the mind but there are things you will experience that will surprise you. I wish you the best! :smile:

neko_girl22 · Sep 16, 2003, 00:17

Dou desuka - if you wanted to learn about somebody you didn't know would you talk to that persons enemy or even someone who doesn't know them well? I guess it's reasonable to say no. That site you gave was obviously written by someone who didn't have all the facts or had something against Jehovah's Witnesses. I believe if we have questions about anything we should get it from the "horses' mouth" so to speak! ;) I believe this is the official site http://www.jw-media.org/

One other thing you said regarding Japanese people

Everything you think is common sense to you is not to them.

I don't quite agree with, but perhaps you didn't mean it quite like it came out ;)

philupthetank86 · Sep 16, 2003, 09:08

i just started reading the novel SHﾔGUN. its very biased agaisnt catholics. well i got to go to a funeral, i wonder why they call them that, only irish funerals are FUNerals. oh, and uhh, theres a lot of vagueness and false truths apostates use in biased statements about jehovahs witnesses. ive found away to find jehovahs witnesses on the internet who are also anime freaks, so i wont be using forum very often.

philupthetank86 · Jan 14, 2006, 23:20

2 years later.
yeah... i still haven't found very many...
but the few that i did find, ended up being my best friends.
one is getting married today, and the other one ended up being my soulmate (in other words. we like each other, and have almost every thing in common)
but still i have yet to find a lot of japanese jehovah's witnesses because i live in a small town, and in our county i've only met one elderly woman at a convention.
i know one online, but he barely speaks english and it's up to my 4~ years of self japanese study to speak with him.
of course one of the main reasons why i want to find japanese jehovah's witnesses is so i have a places to visit when i go to japan which is hopefully some time soon, since i almost went last year.

**Mars Man** · Jan 17, 2006, 17:09

Greetings from the Japan Alps, philupthetank86 san !!

That's some interesting information and posting you've put forward there. You mentioned in that first post that, what. . . you 'became' a JW (if you don't mind my using the initials here) after some time. . . say when you were 15 years old? Is that correct?

And I wonder; would that mean that you are not from a household where the parents or one of them belong to that denomination?

I would really wonder what it is that may have caused you to finally go to the point of baptism, and if you were into discussing such matters, what particular book you had studied in the process. Of course I would in all sincerity ask the same of neko_girl22, as well.

Anyway, since you are searching for leads into hopefully being able to locate and befriend some Japanese national who happens to also be a JW, I would suggest that you write a regular letter, in English, to the branch office in Ebina, asking them to help you. Please be sure to give the precise area in Japan you would hope to stay in, and they'll probably respond. Here's the address:

1271 Nakashinden, Ebina City, Kanagawa Prefecture, 243-04, Japan

I didn't check out that link given above, but will, and will comment on it. There is also, however, a number of discussions on religion in general that go on in the 'Serious Discussions' area; please feel free to join in, if you would like--although I am fully aware of what you have been lead to understand regarding such debates. Hope to talk with you later !!

philupthetank86 · Jan 18, 2006, 05:21

why thank you very very very much!
i'll do that (write a letter)
yeah, i'm the only one in my biological family.
it's simple reason for me, "i have an open mind and my parents do not."
i've not given up hope yet though.

oh, i'm 19 years old now.

this is a really old thread.

**Mars Man** · Jan 18, 2006, 14:28

You're very welcome ! I'm pretty sure they can help out; just give them some time though.

Yes, I was surprized at why such an old thread had suddenly popped up, but since it had been you that had re-booted it up, I thought I'd just kind of jump in with the information--and since you want to come to Japan.

As far as what the Watch Tower Society of New York, Inc. publishes, there are many fine points of error ever so subtlely entertwined within those which are without error, and the average person is without the means to investigate those. I'm glad to hear that you consider yourself open-minded; that is such an important quality of mind. (inclusive of 'heart')

Although the Society, and those who take the lead do offer much in the way of Bible study, and there is much to be applauded there, some major 'loan-understandings' had crept in way back with Storrs, Russell, and a few others of that 'group'--even before the Earnest Bible Students got started.

I would be willing to discuss these with you, if you wish--not in the sense of making attempts to be negative without reason, or to necessarily 'de-rail' your 'faith', but to share information which Brooklyn refuses to clearly print. (although it has, over a large period of time, in spit sections provide insight into several of those points) Here, would not be the place to discuss that, but in the Serious Discussions area.

Again, I have no intent to decieve as many here on the forum who do know me can testify to. Hope to hear from you again ! See you !!

mousee2009 · Jul 22, 2008, 03:43

Umm just kinda of wondering did you ever get in contact with the Jehovah witnesses in Japan?

Jul 16, 2003, 07:24	#1
philupthetank86 Regular Member Join Date: Jul 16, 2003 Location: Tehachapi, California Age: 23 Posts: 40	Ehoba no shounin desu ka? that would be too cool if i could find a jehovah's witness in japan. ive been a fan of japan since i was 10 or so, and now five years later i became a jehovah's witness. i know it wouldnt be to hard to find a japanese JW since 1 out of 578 of the population are. oh well its worth trying. __________________ Now, however, there remain faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

Aug 26, 2003, 10:06	#7
jigen Regular Member Join Date: Aug 26, 2003 Posts: 35	Originally posted by jigen quite funny- when i was living in japan the jehovahs witnesses once came to my door and asked me if was interested in joining-when i said that im a roman catholic- it scared them off somehow...well "veni ignem mittere in terram!"(Luk.12,49), I say...but still they even had a church built in the touhoku region as i got to know: in some places they are quite strong in japan...so not bad for you at all- philupthetank86...

Aug 26, 2003, 10:25	#14
Mandylion Omnipotence personified Join Date: Mar 15, 2003 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,121	Most people in Japan are very aware of any regional Jehovah's Witnesses. This is mainly because they don't take kindly to the missionary work where people come to their door to talk about it. I'm not saying this to put you down, but when you get to Japan, if there are any like-minded people in the area, someone will know where to find them (mainly because they try and avoid them). Good luck with the piano and German! __________________ "It's a dn poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word." - Andrew Jackson**

Sep 16, 2003, 00:17	#18
neko_girl22 Regular Member Join Date: May 14, 2003 Posts: 459	Dou desuka - if you wanted to learn about somebody you didn't know would you talk to that persons enemy or even someone who doesn't know them well? I guess it's reasonable to say no. That site you gave was obviously written by someone who didn't have all the facts or had something against Jehovah's Witnesses. I believe if we have questions about anything we should get it from the "horses' mouth" so to speak! ;) I believe this is the official site http://www.jw-media.org/ One other thing you said regarding Japanese people Everything you think is common sense to you is not to them. I don't quite agree with, but perhaps you didn't mean it quite like it came out ;)

Jan 17, 2006, 17:09	#21
Mars Man Kami-sama Join Date: Jul 28, 2005 Posts: 4,292 Blog Entries: 1	Naruhodo. . . Greetings from the Japan Alps, philupthetank86 san !! That's some interesting information and posting you've put forward there. You mentioned in that first post that, what. . . you 'became' a JW (if you don't mind my using the initials here) after some time. . . say when you were 15 years old? Is that correct? And I wonder; would that mean that you are not from a household where the parents or one of them belong to that denomination? I would really wonder what it is that may have caused you to finally go to the point of baptism, and if you were into discussing such matters, what particular book you had studied in the process. Of course I would in all sincerity ask the same of neko_girl22, as well. Anyway, since you are searching for leads into hopefully being able to locate and befriend some Japanese national who happens to also be a JW, I would suggest that you write a regular letter, in English, to the branch office in Ebina, asking them to help you. Please be sure to give the precise area in Japan you would hope to stay in, and they'll probably respond. Here's the address: 1271 Nakashinden, Ebina City, Kanagawa Prefecture, 243-04, Japan I didn't check out that link given above, but will, and will comment on it. There is also, however, a number of discussions on religion in general that go on in the 'Serious Discussions' area; please feel free to join in, if you would like--although I am fully aware of what you have been lead to understand regarding such debates. Hope to talk with you later !!

Jul 24, 2003, 18:14	#2
neko_girl22 Regular Member Join Date: May 14, 2003 Posts: 459	hai--- Ehoba no shounin desu---! Hi philupthetank86 Kyodai I'm not Japanese though, a kiwi married to a Japanese, living in Japan. If you're in Japan, you're welcome to come and visit!

Jul 25, 2003, 05:08	#3
philupthetank86 Regular Member Join Date: Jul 16, 2003 Location: Tehachapi, California Age: 23 Posts: 40	well i dont live in japan but i hope to move there some time after i graduate. i want to move to a place that is cold all the time, like hokkaido, to me, the summer means death and the winter means life, that philosophy just came to me after my usagichan died in the summer heat, i dont know, i would just much rather die of freezing that to die of heat. plus, after watching the anime saikano i want to go to hokkaido even more, after seeing what it was like.

Jul 25, 2003, 07:05	#4
neko_girl22 Regular Member Join Date: May 14, 2003 Posts: 459	I've heard Hokkaido is rather like New Zealand so it must be beautiful ha ha! I plan to go there in winter - to the amazing ice festival (huge ice castles etc etc) I live in the south of Kyushu - Kagoshima prefecture. It's kind of subtropical (palm trees etc) and soooo beautiful but VERY HOT-! It's 34。C everyday and HUMID, but it will rise to about 39 next month. Summer lasts through to October I've heard. The heat is pretty opressive, but I prefer it to cold because I am 寒がり- (samugari) I always have cold feet! Sounds like you are 暑がり - atsugari! (person who likes it cold) Perhaps , if you want Witness contacts in Hokkaido, I might be able to ask my friend who lived in Sapporo for a year......?

Aug 13, 2003, 17:05	#5
philupthetank86 Regular Member Join Date: Jul 16, 2003 Location: Tehachapi, California Age: 23 Posts: 40	i need to move to japan, i also need to learn the piano and learn german, but for now i will learn japanese,

Aug 26, 2003, 10:04	#6
jigen Regular Member Join Date: Aug 26, 2003 Posts: 35	quite funny- when i was living in japan the jehovahs witnesses once came to my door and asked me if was interested in joining-when i said that im a roman catholic- it scared them off somehow...well ""veni ignem mittere in terram"!(Luk.12,49), I say...but still they even had a church built in the touhoku region as i got to know: in some places they are quite strong in japan...so not bad for you at all- philupthetank86...

Aug 26, 2003, 10:07	#8
jigen Regular Member Join Date: Aug 26, 2003 Posts: 35	Originally posted by jigen quite funny- when i was living in japan the jehovahs witnesses once came to my door and asked me if was interested in joining-when i said that im a roman catholic- it scared them off somehow...well "veni ignem mittere in terram!"(Luk.12,49), I say...but still they even had a church built in the touhoku region as i got to know: in some places they are quite strong in japan...so not bad for you at all- philupthetank86... good luck to you!

Aug 26, 2003, 10:09	#10
jigen Regular Member Join Date: Aug 26, 2003 Posts: 35	sorry-im not used to the posting sys here-but christ-you are pretty quick to reply indeed...

Aug 26, 2003, 10:11	#11
philupthetank86 Regular Member Join Date: Jul 16, 2003 Location: Tehachapi, California Age: 23 Posts: 40	yeah my yahoo messenger alerts me when i get an email, the email telling me that japan forum has updated a topic that i was in,

Aug 26, 2003, 10:14	#12
jigen Regular Member Join Date: Aug 26, 2003 Posts: 35	well, (this is like chatting) i havent found out yet where you can delete your own message...(seemed to have posted too often) : ) (also-dont know where the emoticons are here...)

Aug 26, 2003, 10:23	#13
jigen Regular Member Join Date: Aug 26, 2003 Posts: 35	oh btw i know german pretty well-wie gehts?demo nihongo no hou ga ii n ja nai desuka?

Sep 2, 2003, 11:08	#15
philupthetank86 Regular Member Join Date: Jul 16, 2003 Location: Tehachapi, California Age: 23 Posts: 40	yeah, im going to learn german in college, some day, right now i am learning the paino and doing pretty well. but more importantly i want to learn japanese because i want to spend my post highschool years in japan, i want to go to college in japan, ach. plus also. when i learn japanese completely i can learn german through this website http://home.hiroshima-u.ac.jp/iwakat...t/online_e.htm i just wish i could make contact with some of my br�der in japan.

Sep 15, 2003, 18:55	#16
doudesuka Regular Member Join Date: Jul 31, 2003 Posts: 150	philupthetank86 http://www.jwic.com/historyj.htm here is a site that maybe interesting.

Sep 15, 2003, 19:08	#17
doudesuka Regular Member Join Date: Jul 31, 2003 Posts: 150	jigen, look at the bottom right opposite of the flag you see. It says edit.. Click on that and it will give you a choice to delete. Also, look towards the bottom of this screen. There's a box on the left. It says forum rules. On the right hand side you will see smiles. Just click on that and a screen will appear. choose your emotion. philupthetank86, you are quite an ambitious person. The advice I must give you is be reasonable in your expectations of what Japan will offer you. There are many great things then there is things you might learn the hard way. Everything you think is common sense to you is not to them. They have a different way of looking at things. I am just telling you from my experience of living here. It's great for the culture lesson and stimulating the mind but there are things you will experience that will surprise you. I wish you the best! :smile:

Sep 16, 2003, 09:08	#19
philupthetank86 Regular Member Join Date: Jul 16, 2003 Location: Tehachapi, California Age: 23 Posts: 40	i just started reading the novel SHﾔGUN. its very biased agaisnt catholics. well i got to go to a funeral, i wonder why they call them that, only irish funerals are FUNerals. oh, and uhh, theres a lot of vagueness and false truths apostates use in biased statements about jehovahs witnesses. ive found away to find jehovahs witnesses on the internet who are also anime freaks, so i wont be using forum very often.

Jan 14, 2006, 23:20	#20
philupthetank86 Regular Member Join Date: Jul 16, 2003 Location: Tehachapi, California Age: 23 Posts: 40	2 years later. yeah... i still haven't found very many... but the few that i did find, ended up being my best friends. one is getting married today, and the other one ended up being my soulmate (in other words. we like each other, and have almost every thing in common) but still i have yet to find a lot of japanese jehovah's witnesses because i live in a small town, and in our county i've only met one elderly woman at a convention. i know one online, but he barely speaks english and it's up to my 4~ years of self japanese study to speak with him. of course one of the main reasons why i want to find japanese jehovah's witnesses is so i have a places to visit when i go to japan which is hopefully some time soon, since i almost went last year.

Jan 18, 2006, 05:21	#22
philupthetank86 Regular Member Join Date: Jul 16, 2003 Location: Tehachapi, California Age: 23 Posts: 40	why thank you very very very much! i'll do that (write a letter) yeah, i'm the only one in my biological family. it's simple reason for me, "i have an open mind and my parents do not." i've not given up hope yet though. oh, i'm 19 years old now. this is a really old thread.

Jan 18, 2006, 14:28	#23
Mars Man Kami-sama Join Date: Jul 28, 2005 Posts: 4,292 Blog Entries: 1	You're very welcome ! I'm pretty sure they can help out; just give them some time though. Yes, I was surprized at why such an old thread had suddenly popped up, but since it had been you that had re-booted it up, I thought I'd just kind of jump in with the information--and since you want to come to Japan. As far as what the Watch Tower Society of New York, Inc. publishes, there are many fine points of error ever so subtlely entertwined within those which are without error, and the average person is without the means to investigate those. I'm glad to hear that you consider yourself open-minded; that is such an important quality of mind. (inclusive of 'heart') Although the Society, and those who take the lead do offer much in the way of Bible study, and there is much to be applauded there, some major 'loan-understandings' had crept in way back with Storrs, Russell, and a few others of that 'group'--even before the Earnest Bible Students got started. I would be willing to discuss these with you, if you wish--not in the sense of making attempts to be negative without reason, or to necessarily 'de-rail' your 'faith', but to share information which Brooklyn refuses to clearly print. (although it has, over a large period of time, in spit sections provide insight into several of those points) Here, would not be the place to discuss that, but in the Serious Discussions area. Again, I have no intent to decieve as many here on the forum who do know me can testify to. Hope to hear from you again ! See you !!

Jul 22, 2008, 03:43	#24
mousee2009 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 22, 2008 Location: Georgia Age: 19 Posts: 1	Umm just kinda of wondering did you ever get in contact with the Jehovah witnesses in Japan?

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