Imperial Japanese Army Academy

[Astroboy]

Park Chung-hee, the 5th-9th president of South Korea, graduated from The Imperial Japanese Army Academy in 1944.

Chiang Kai-shek, the lifetime president of ROC/Taiwan, studied at The Imperial Japanese Army Academy in 1907-1911.

Well done.

[nice gaijin]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperia...e_Army_Academy

well done indeed.

[scorpion da black]

i wish japan would re establish the Imperial army academy...

then they wont need any ones help any more and they can be as stron as they once were

[Astroboy]

Japanese are not interested in "militaristic strength", but only defence, I think.

"Militaristic strength" does not guage real strength of a country anymore. Time has changed. Some countries still rely on that though.

[scorpion da black]

but as sad as it sounds , japan is dependent on USA's military power to protect its land from threats ike north korea..
if japan would strengthen its army it wouldnt have to keep okinawa under US control and it wouldnt have to be dependent on any other nation.
not that i'm saying it should be a hostile military based nation...i am just saying it would protect its soverienty better

[Astroboy]

Originally Posted by scorpion da black

...i am just saying it would protect its soverienty better

Although I am not military geek, as far as I know, JDSF (Japanese Self-Defense Force) is already one of the most powerful military in the world. Defense of Japan is not primary objective of US army in Japan, but JDSF is primarily responsible, and US army is to support defense of Japan.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita.../japan/jda.htm

Then why US army stays in Japan? My answer is:

1. US army in Japan is a kind of "insurance" for Japan's defense
2. USA plays a key role as powerful third party in the region to judge who cause problems in the region. As you know, Korea and China are untrustable.
3. As a premium of insurance, Japan bears approx. half of cost of US army.
4. It is always good to share the costs.

In addition, although all believes that Japan forms military alliance with USA, but it is not correct. Japan-USA security treaty tells that USA must support Japan but Japan must not support USA. So it's very good treay for Japan.

[caster51]

http://myjapanstudy.blogspot.com/
http://myjapanstudy.blogspot.com/200...1_archive.html
http://myjapanstudy.blogspot.com/200...1_archive.html


http://www.flickr.com/photos/nashara/page24/

most korean army's generals were graduated from it
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%9F%...B7.8F.E9.95.B7

btw
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paik_Sun-yup

he was a korean hero at korean war
now he is on the pro-japan list in korea
He said " korean war was Japan VS Russia" lol
http://www1.cnh.ne.jp/sassaki/kokoro6.htm


another interesting story
Japaese soldiers made chinese air force academy??

http://www.peoplechina.com.cn/maindo...zhuanwen64.htm

米国空軍参謀長・バンテンバーグ将軍は、「レッドチャイナは、一夜のうちに世界の主要な空軍強国の一つにな ったようだ」と驚いた。

　新中国の空軍は、日本の友人たちの支援のもとで誕生した。「帝国軍人」だった日本人たちは、中国共産党が 初の航空学校を創設するのに協力し、初代のパイロットを育成した。王海上将も日本人の教官から教えを受けた 戦闘の英雄である。

[scorpion da black]

well, i have debated on wether the american military should stay in japan or not on another thread.
i said out of respect to the japanese people i choose to leave the answer for the japanese people! if they feel the US is an allie well the US army gets to stay..if they belive it is a liability that should be discarded then as so.

[caster51]

Chiang Kai-shek and Iwane matsui's relation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iwane_Matsui

Matsui took care of Chiang Kai-shek like a family during his staying..
in 1927, Chiang Kai-shek came to Japan again by Matsui's invitation.
then ,Japan and KMT took a agreement that if KMT unites the china and eliminates the CCP commies, Japan would approve KMT's china.
and KMT will accept to approve Manchuko.

However, this plan was ruind by this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukden_Incident.

in 1961, Chiang Kai-shek commented about Matsui to Japanese delegation.
when I was in nanking in 1937,I announced I declared the do-or-die resistance to a Japanese army. However indeed, I never heard such Nanking incident. then he crid and said " I am very sorry for Matsui. he really loved China and helped Sun Yat-sen's revolution with Attention of regret"
"

[nash99]

Hi, I just found out through a site meter report that somebody posted my great grandfather's profile here in the link above. Yes, he was the first and only Thai graduated from Rikugun Daigakkou. He led a Siamese troop to WWI and got a Croix de Guerre medal. He did not participate in WWII. He spent his retirement dedicating his time teaching Japanese language, martial arts, and helping the Japanese community in Thailand in general. Obviously, having been to Japan since 8 years old, accompanying his father who was then the Siamese Ambassador, he always had a special bond to the her.

For history buffs here, yes, at that time, the Royal Thai Government thought it was good for my great grandfather to try to get into this prestigious school, with Japan basking in many of her military glory at that time (before WWI).

And according to the historical documents we have here in Thailand, it was not easy to get in the school. The prospective applicants had to have experience in all the regiments before (infantry, artillery, etc.), not just having good grades, recommendations and physical and mental fitness. I think the idea still prevails nowadays in Japanese corporation when the top person should have had their training in all the departments before?

Anyway, my great-grandfather graduated from the Officers' War College in 1928.

Thank you.

[caster51]

Hey nash99, your blog is great
I thought your previous life was related to them.
welcome back to japan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamada_Nagamasa

[caster51]

This is a Korean name; the family name is Hong.
Hong Sa-ik (4 March 1889 – 26 September 1946)[1] was a lieutenant general in the Imperial Japanese Army, and the highest-ranking ethnic Korean in Japan to be charged with war crimes relating to the conduct of the Empire of Japan in World War

Biography
A graduate of the Imperial Japanese Army Academy, Hong was placed in command of the Japanese camps holding Allied (primarily U.S. and Filipino) prisoners of war in the Philippines during the latter part of World War II, where many of the camp guards were of Korean ethnicity. Unfortunately for Hong, some of his Korean guards committed atrocities against the POWs. [2]


Early career
Hong, a member of the Namyang Hong clan, was born in 1889 to a yangban family in Anseong, Gyeonggi-do. In 1905, as the Eulsa Treaty was being signed, he entered into the military academy of the Korean Empire. With the abolishment of the academy in 1909, he transferred to Japan's Central Military Preparatory School (陸軍中央幼年学校, Rikugun Chūō Yōnen Gakkō?) as a government-financed student along with Crown Prince Yi Eun on the orders of dethroned Emperor Gojong.

Soon after, he advanced to the Imperial Japanese Army Academy. At that time, there were several students from the Empire of Korea enrolled at the military academy, and with the shock of the 1910 annexation of Korea by Japan, a few left the Academy to join in the movements for Korean independence, but most followed the lead of Ji Cheong-cheon, who argued that they should leave to fight only after having studied and developed their skills. A few, such as Hong, attempted to stay aloof from either movement, and largely parted ways with his classmates.[1]

In 1914, Hong graduated in the 26th class of the Academy and was commissioned as a lieutenant into the Imperial Japanese Army, and in 1923 graduated from the Army War College.

Around this time, he was contacted by Ji Cheong-cheon, who had now defected to become the commander of the Korean Liberation Army; Ji invited him to join the Provisional Government of the Republic of Korea, based in Shanghai, but Hong felt that the time was not right and that other ethnic Korean officers serving in the Japanese Army would suffer if he defected, and thus refused his old friend's invitation. However, in spite of this, he secretly maintained his friendship with Yi and other anti-Japanese activists in the Korean Liberation Army, and even supported Yi's family with his own funds, an action which could have put Hong himself in danger if he made even a small mistake.[1]

Rising through the ranks
With the implementation of the sōshi-kaimei policy, Hong was under strong pressure change his Korean name to a Japanese-style name, but he ignored the pressure and in the end did not change his name and kept his surname as Hong.

Hong continued to demonstrate exceptional ability and was rapidly promoted through the ranks, eventually rising to the rank of lieutenant general. From 1939-1940, he was with the China Expeditionary Army. From 1940-1941, he was assigned to the 1st Depot Division, and in 1941, he became the commander of the IJA 108th Infantry Brigade as a major general. In March 1944, he went to the Philippines to command all prisoner-of-war camps. He was promoted to lieutenant general in October of the same year, and remained in the Philippines under the 14th Area Army until the cessation of hostilities.


[edit] Trial and execution
After the war, Hong was tried in Manila before a military tribunal by the Allies over the conduct of his prison guards while he was commandant. [3]The Manila tribunal sentenced Hong to death as a war criminal on 18 April [1946]]. [4]

While in prison, Hong was reported to have converted to Christianity.[2] He was executed by hanging on 26 September 1946. Before he was executed, he requested the presiding minister to read Psalm 51, a plea by King David for God to wash away the sin of his adultery with Bathsheba.[1]


[edit] Later views
After Korea regained its independence, Hong's family became the target of blame and ostracism by various factions in Korea. His eldest son Hong Guk-seon graduated from Japan's Waseda University and afterwards worked in the Bank of Chōsen , but was removed from his position on the orders of Syngman Rhee. He and his mother, Hong's widow, later emigrated to the United States to escape the persecution.[5]

http://www.tamanegiya.com/kousyoubunn.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Sa-ik

The reason why he succeeds was unrelated to the position and the standing of a family, and was single-mindedly individual abilities.

after that, Economic world, Eisaku sato and many Japanese helped his family


辞世の句
「昔より冤死せしものあまたあり　われもまた　これに加わらんのみ」
There are a lot of people executed by the false charge for a long time.
I also only join them.

[otoko]

Originally Posted by Astroboy

Although I am not military geek, as far as I know, JDSF (Japanese Self-Defense Force) is already one of the most powerful military in the world. Defense of Japan is not primary objective of US army in Japan, but JDSF is primarily responsible, and US army is to support defense of Japan.

Then why US army stays in Japan? My answer is:
1. US army in Japan is a kind of "insurance" for Japan's defense
2. USA plays a key role as powerful third party in the region to judge who cause problems in the region. As you know, Korea and China are untrustable.
3. As a premium of insurance, Japan bears approx. half of cost of US army.
4. It is always good to share the costs.
In addition, although all believes that Japan forms military alliance with USA, but it is not correct. Japan-USA security treaty tells that USA must support Japan but Japan must not support USA. So it's very good treay for Japan.

I think it was a good deal for Japan. Being under the American security umbrella let Japan concentrate on their economy after the war. It let America have a strategic bulwark against the Soviet Union during the Cold War.

Initially they drew up the constitution and article 9 to prevent Japan from going to war again and be overseen by the United Nations. Unfortunately Chiang Kai Shek(America's ally) was defeated by the communists and fled to Taiwan. The Soviet Union came to be seen as a threat.

In 1952 they concluded the peace treaty with Japan to end the occupation and urged Japan to re-arm. They ratified the US-Japan security treaty. Then negotiated a new treaty in 1960 that would benefit both sides equally.

I think though eventally Japan will have to take more responsibilty for security. Politically that will be difficult because it does not seem the majority of Japanese want it or they have more important domestic concerns(which I think are more important also). Also because of the conservatives in government who just don't do a very good job convincing the world of Japan's hansei for the war. You know if they just got it over with(compensation etc) they could probably re-arm.

I hope you mean North Korea. South Korea is fine, and should be an ally of Japan.

[Astroboy]

I think though eventally Japan will have to take more responsibilty for security. Politically that will be difficult because it does not seem the majority of Japanese want it or they have more important domestic concerns(which I think are more important also).

I think that Japan is already well equipped for its own security, but Japan is not interested in showing militaristic strength. It is a waste of money and human lives. Thanking to Article-9, Japan self-regulates overseas deployment of military.

Go USA! Ganbatte-ne!

[tokapi]

Originally Posted by caster51

Chiang Kai-shek and Iwane matsui's relation ....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iwane_Matsui

Matsui took care of Chiang Kai-shek like a family during his staying..

Chiang Kai-Shek adopted a half-Japanese,he named him 蔣緯國 Chiang Wei-Kuo.Actually,an illegitimate son of Chiang's crony 戴季陶 Tai Chi-Tao

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tai_Chi-tao

Born in Tokyo when Chiang Kai-shek and the KMT was exiled to Japan by the Beiyang Government, Chiang Wei-Kuo has long been speculated to be an illegitimate child of Tai Chi-Tao and a Japanese woman, Shigematsu Kaneko ( 重松金子 ).

According to popular speculation, Tai believed knowledge of his extramarital affairs would destroy his marriage and his career, so he entrusted Wei-kuo to Chiang Kai-shek, after the Japanese Yamada Juntaro (山田純太郎) brought the infant to Shanghai. Yao Yecheng (姚冶誠), Chiang's wife at the time, raised Wei-Kuo as her own.The boy called Tai his "Dear Uncle" (親伯).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiang_Wei-kuo

* Chiang's KMT regime have been in bed with the Japanese on & off and KMT's propagenda machine feeds anti-Japan or anti-Japanese sentiments to ignorant Chi-nee population.

[caster51]

Chiang Kai-Shek adopted a half-Japanese,he named him 蔣緯國 Chiang Wei-Kuo.Actually,an illegitimate son of Chiang's crony 戴季陶 Tai Chi-Tao

I did not know that. thanks


Btw
there is Chiang Kai-shek shinto shrine in Japan. lol
http://anrianan.exblog.jp/m2005-09-01/

[caster51]

Aisin-Gioro Pujie

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pujie

17th Aug ,1945
邱錦春,a taiwanese memory: he went to pyonyang to rescue Puji and Puyi as a secret mission impossible...

http://ysptclub.rithosts.net/ktftw/fugi.html

[tokapi]

Originally Posted by caster51

Btw,there is Chiang Kai-shek shinto shrine in Japan. lol

Wow ... that's interesting

[tokapi]

Originally Posted by caster51

another interesting story ...

Japaese soldiers made chinese air force academy ??

http://www.peoplechina.com.cn/maindo...zhuanwen64.htm

I now recall one old world news magazine article revealed Chiang Kai-Shek retained a few talent Taiwan-stationed former Japanese Army officials to train his KMT police forces in the 1950's.Maybe,you can dig up some reliable online Japanese sources on your end.

[Astroboy]

Originally Posted by tokapi

I now recall one old world news magazine article revealed Chiang Kai-Shek retained a few talent Taiwan-stationed former Japanese Army officials to train his KMT police forces in the 1950's.Maybe,you can dig up some reliable online Japanese sources on your end.

"Bai Dan": Voluntary Military Advisory Group of ex-Imperial Japan Army Officers worked for Taiwanese Army from 1950 - 1968.

Chinag Kai-Shek needed Japanese-styled army for offensive to the mainland.
From his experience in Japanese military academy, he knew that US-styled military force does not fit with Taiwan because US military is based on unlimited resource and supplies.

Bai Dan is not an official military assistance of Japan for Taiwan, but voluntary. It is reported that a total of 83 ex-officers of Imperial J-army went to Taiwan and helped establish training system of Taiwanese Army.

http://home.att.ne.jp/apple/tamaco/Y...501Baiduan.htm
http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/482950383...R5J5QSW74VA67&