Dual Citizenship Tracker

[nyouyaku]

The new IC chip in passports along with the use of biometric strips, fingerprinting of foreigners in Japan are ways that Japan can detect dual citizenship amongst its own citizens. Some countries are already sharing these biometric information, and it would be wise for all Japanese nationals holding dual citizenship to not apply for a second passport if they can avoid it. Even if it requires one to obtain a visa to a country where your second citizenship will let you in visa free, it is worth the price. It is best to travel the entire world as only a Japanese, and a citizen of your second country in that country only. Those who have older passports, where your second citizenship does not contain biometric info, you are fine as long as you do not enter Japan with it. After getting the gaijin scan at the airport and then you apply for a J-passport with the strip, the two datas will link up, and you will be busted. This happened to a friend of mine, so please be warned.

[Mike Cash]

You don't reside in Japan, and I strongly doubt that you are Japanese or even of Japanese descent. What is the source of your obsession with Japanese citizenship in general and your racist slant on in in particular?

[Glenski]

I thought Japan doesn't even recognize dual citizenship. After you are 22, you have to choose one country. http://www.crnjapan.com/issues/en/na...tizenship.html

[DoctorP]

They don't recognize it, but the fact is you can still carry both a US and Japanese citizenship because there is no way for them to track it.

[nyouyaku]

Originally Posted by DoctorP

They don't recognize it, but the fact is you can still carry both a US and Japanese citizenship because there is no way for them to track it.

They now can. With the introduction of the biometric strip. However, you need to make passports in both countries with the biometric strip to match. If you only carry a Japanese passport, you will slip under the radar for a while. Pray that the laws will change in the next 10 years, and make sure you get a 10 year passport but in Japan.

[nyouyaku]

Originally Posted by Glenski

I thought Japan doesn't even recognize dual citizenship. After you are 22, you have to choose one country. http://www.crnjapan.com/issues/en/na...tizenship.html

Oh my goodness! I saw this part:

Secondly, having being domiciled in Japan is a requirement for re-acquiring Japanese nationality. However, there are many cases where a Japanese man marries a woman based in Southeast Asia, then leaves his wife and child returning to Japan alone after their child is born. In this case, since the abandoned wife does not know about the nationality retention system, the child loses Japanese nationality, and, in order to enter Japan, the child will need a visa to enter and stay as a foreigner. In order to obtain such a visa, it is necessary for the child to find his/her father in order to have him as a guarantor. It is quite easy to imagine how difficult it is for the child to discover its father. If the child finds his/her father at all, it is hard to imagine that the Japanese father who has abandoned the wife and child will be willing to become the child’s guarantor. This means that it is virtually impossible for the child to be domiciled in Japan. Naturally, in cases of unlawful entry, the child cannot be recognized as having a domicile, as specified in Article 17 of the Nationality Law.

I think that if Japanese men go to Thailand or Cambodia for example, knocks up a Thai or Cambodian woman, then leaves her, Japanese law protects him from having to own up to caring for his mixed child. As you may know it is difficult for a Thai, Russia, or Cambodian to come legally into Japan, and thus, the Japanese man will wash his hands clean, and his wife will not be able to find out as she can't come and tell her.

Glenski, Madame Pappilion, this I think needs to be corrected. Imagine if he doesn't register the child, he could just simply marry another lady in Japan, and under Japanese law, he would be given a clean slate to do so, counting his cambodian or russian wife as irrelevant.

I think I am going to stop dating Japanese men. Just imagine if I got pregnant and then he left, or what if he took the child away, and he was given full custody and I given no rights as a foreigner? I think Japanese men will lose out in dating foreign ladies if every lady finds out about this. Japan can be a country for Japan, and it will be wether they like it or not even for the men when it comes to mate selection.

[Mike Cash]

According to the gender symbol under your user name, getting pregnant is hardly something you have to worry about.

[nyouyaku]

Originally Posted by Mike Cash

According to the gender symbol under your user name, getting pregnant is hardly something you have to worry about.

Have you ever heard of Kathoey? I am a Kathoey.

[quato]

Originally Posted by nyouyaku

The new IC chip in passports along with the use of biometric strips, fingerprinting of foreigners in Japan are ways that Japan can detect dual citizenship amongst its own citizens. Some countries are already sharing these biometric information, and it would be wise for all Japanese nationals holding dual citizenship to not apply for a second passport if they can avoid it. Even if it requires one to obtain a visa to a country where your second citizenship will let you in visa free, it is worth the price. It is best to travel the entire world as only a Japanese, and a citizen of your second country in that country only. Those who have older passports, where your second citizenship does not contain biometric info, you are fine as long as you do not enter Japan with it. After getting the gaijin scan at the airport and then you apply for a J-passport with the strip, the two datas will link up, and you will be busted. This happened to a friend of mine, so please be warned.

Is this linked with police records in the US? ie if a Japanese-American gets arrested in the US and is on the record as a US citizen, when they apply for a biometric passport will they find out about him being a US citizen?

[Glenski]

Wikipedia says:
The term kathoey or katoey (Thai: กะเทย, IPA: [kaʔtʰɤːj]) generally refers to a male-to-female transgender person or an effeminate gay male in Thailand.

Still male AFAIK. Still incapable of being pregnant.

[FrustratedDave]

I am confused, what is this topic about?

@Mike and Glenski, I think you guys are behind the times, in this day and age it is possible for a male to get pregnant.

































Didn't you watch "Junior" with Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny DeVito!

[Reiji]

that is very scary...........to be pregnant

[otoko]

Originally Posted by nyouyaku

The new IC chip in passports along with the use of biometric strips, fingerprinting of foreigners in Japan are ways that Japan can detect dual citizenship amongst its own citizens. Some countries are already sharing these biometric information, and it would be wise for all Japanese nationals holding dual citizenship to not apply for a second passport if they can avoid it. Even if it requires one to obtain a visa to a country where your second citizenship will let you in visa free, it is worth the price. It is best to travel the entire world as only a Japanese, and a citizen of your second country in that country only. Those who have older passports, where your second citizenship does not contain biometric info, you are fine as long as you do not enter Japan with it. After getting the gaijin scan at the airport and then you apply for a J-passport with the strip, the two datas will link up, and you will be busted. This happened to a friend of mine, so please be warned.

I don't get what you are talking about. If you have a Japanese passport and have it renewed this has no bearing in your other citizenship. Enter Japan with your Japanese passport. Enter the states with your US passport. As far as each country is concerned you are the national of the country you are in. How Japan defines its citizens does not take into consideration what other countries do. The only problem with dual nationals is travel, names on tickets and if you get into trouble in another country, which embassy will help you(which shouldn't be a huge problem, the embassy of which passport you came into the country with). Usually if immigration has a problem and they demand to know if you are a dual national, or if showing them that you are a dual national clears things up, the problem will be over.

[hsakakibara1]

Originally Posted by nyouyaku

The new IC chip in passports along with the use of biometric strips, fingerprinting of foreigners in Japan are ways that Japan can detect dual citizenship amongst its own citizens. Some countries are already sharing these biometric information, and it would be wise for all Japanese nationals holding dual citizenship to not apply for a second passport if they can avoid it. Even if it requires one to obtain a visa to a country where your second citizenship will let you in visa free, it is worth the price. It is best to travel the entire world as only a Japanese, and a citizen of your second country in that country only. Those who have older passports, where your second citizenship does not contain biometric info, you are fine as long as you do not enter Japan with it. After getting the gaijin scan at the airport and then you apply for a J-passport with the strip, the two datas will link up, and you will be busted. This happened to a friend of mine, so please be warned.

I know many people with both US and Japanese new passports and they have no trouble.