judgment day

[scorpion da black]

who believes in the end of the world??
both in scientific and in religious sense ...

if you believe in the end of the world then how do you picture it??
what reasons do you choose to believe in it?

if not; then why?

[Derfel]

I imagine it like this:
We're all happy in our world full of sin, globalization, technology and all.
Now, suddenly some weird astronomical phenomenon occurs, and Witnesses of Jehova declare that the end is nigh, they soon burst into orgasm at the thought of being saved from Armageddon, as the chosen ones of God. The next day, after nothing relevant happening, life continues, the WoJ speaksman or representative declares that they slightly miscalculated things, and that the occurence the other day was only an omen of Armageddon which may happen any day.

[scorpion da black]

the good ol' derfel and his comedy .... i really like how you picture judgment day

[karlyboo]

Judgement Day actually happened yesterday. God just recreated everything this morning, including all of you, complete with fake memories, and all of your possessions. Only I, out of the entire human race, saw the truth. Bill Shatner was the Almighty and Mr. T was his arch-angel.

Or on a serious note I think it will happen with the Sun exhausts its supply of hydrogen and begins to fuse helium instead, roasting the Earth and everything on it before the whole shmeer collapses into a white dwarf.

Bring marshmellows.

[Derfel]

Originally Posted by karlyboo

Or on a serious note I think it will happen with the Sun exhausts its supply of hydrogen and begins to fuse helium instead, roasting the Earth and everything on it before the whole shmeer collapses into a white dwarf.
Bring marshmellows.

Whoa, whoa. Ain't a white dwarf hotter than a red giant? So that would mean it will eventually turn into a super nova or something? Judging by the fact that it becomes more concentrated.

[scorpion da black]

great approach karlyboo san, just as i pictured it

[karlyboo]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_dwarf

Knowledge for all

[Mars Man]

This is a good question, and one which is fairly straight. Well, karlyboo beat me to it, but why not go over it some more. (this a problem, now I'm gonna have to get a PC over in my study...something like this comes up and I have to run over and pull out some old issues, or books, and. . . )

Yeah, we calculatively have some 50 billion years before our heat source swells to the point of making things a little crispy here on earth. While there are a number of models, they all seem to say that we'd never make it even near the point of being able to see the really strange things that occur, such as toxic skies and so on. The main reason for that would be early water loss.

However, 50 billion years is a pretty long time, so we cannot rest assured that the homo sapien will still be around. Even above that, we today would pretty much say our 'world' has ended when this present line of general civilization stops, if it were to, even while humans yet existed.

The likelihood that the demise of our present line of civilization will have been instigated by any extraterrestial intelligent life form (or whatever make) is extremely small, and for some human-made deity entity to do so, is even more unlikely.

It will, however, end. One day there will be no more life here, and (if the sun novas out enough) no more planet even.

[yumeitsumo]

Ok. THere is going to be a time when the world will end. We will probably be dead before it ends. We are going to crash into another galaxy or something. Andromeda? Is it? Yes!

[Tsuyoiko]

Originally Posted by Derfel

Whoa, whoa. Ain't a white dwarf hotter than a red giant? So that would mean it will eventually turn into a super nova or something? Judging by the fact that it becomes more concentrated.

Not a supernova - the Sun's not massive enough.

[Eponine]

Originally Posted by karlyboo

Judgement Day actually happened yesterday. God just recreated everything this morning, including all of you, complete with fake memories, and all of your possessions. Only I, out of the entire human race, saw the truth. Bill Shatner was the Almighty and Mr. T was his arch-angel.

Coming soon to the Fox Network...

[Goldiegirl]

I don't believe in a "Judgement Day" in the religious sense. When your dead you're dead. I would like to think there is more to that, but I don't believe that there is. Scientifically, of course this world will end. When the sun ends so do we...

[Derfel]

Call me stupid, call me a retard, but I was DEVASTATED after watching Neon Genesis Evangelion and End of Evangelion. While many might say that its a mere cartoon, it obviously isn't.
Although its not something serious, but I always imagined my Apocalypse, Evangelion inspired me a lot. I have one hobby, and everything else gathers around it. Thats the "Last stand of humanity". Thats why I love things like the Judas Priest albums between Painkiller-Angel of Retribution, NGE, RahXephon, Xenogears and stuff like it. I imagine my Judgment Days all the time, a bit different, a bit mystical, a bit more technocratic, a bit medieval, a bit futuristic, sometimes steampunk and sometimes fantasy. But here's my favorite edition, be warned, its not a scientific work, more like a film script.

The distant future, a research station, probably the last one.
Humanity was attacked by extraterrestrial beings, now these beings began to destroy humanity, at first the reason is pretty obscure, but later, somehow human scientists find out that the aliens are genetically similar to us, which leads to the conclusion that this is how they colonize the space. They send a seed of life the the chosen planet (pretty much like the panspermia theory), and wait patiently until life develops on it.
Now among our aliens advanced gene surgery is a taboo, even they are afraid of the outcome.
But something went dead wrong with the humans from their perspective. They expected humans to be either mindless slaves, or rational beings very much like these aliens.
But somehow humans turned out to be how they are, they learnt how to steal, how to pillage, how to betray, how to differentiate themselves, their family, their friends from the entire human species. In a nutshell, they became egoists, they became individuals.
Now, the humans are almost eradicated, there aren't many left of them, probably only our pack of scientists, but they, they have the chance to ensure humanity's rebirth.
They're field is gene surgery, and simultaneously they are working on two projects:
1, Modifying the human genes and causing it to evolve at a greater speed, so yeah, accelerated evolution.
2, Encoding all the knowledge that humanity possesses at that time into the dns.
How, how not, they prevail with this plan of theirs, but when they could celebrate their victory, the aliens discover them, they discover them and go after them.
This is where the long journey starts with the Ocean as a goal.
During the destruction of the facility the head scientist (I've decided that the head scientist must be a she for obvious reasons) injects the vector virus into herself, which causes her body to start decaying, so time is short.
This is the first chapter of the story, in the second the last pack of humans are traveling together to escort the head scientist to the ocean to ensure humanity's survival.

Voila, probably im nuts, but hell, I'd give everything If I could be the part of such a story.

[scorpion da black]

wow that is a vivid imagination there Derfel san
you like anime and heavy metal ...sweet...now we understand each other

[Clawn]

I believe in both the religious and scientific judgment days. Yes, I'm one of those who believes in the possibility of the Rapture and the days of tribulation that will follow. That's just my opinion. However, I also believe that there is a chance for either natural causes or humanity to annihilate the earth. As well, I also subscribe to the belief that when God calls his followers up to heaven, it may not be in the dramatic sense of books such as "Left Behind" - I, personally, believe that some mass catastrophe may occur to "send" all the believers to heaven-biological weapons/climate change/illness, take your pick.

Anywho, I'll agree with everyone here in saying that, eventually, the sun will kill everything off. It's just my opinion that something-or someone-else will get to it much faster.

[scorpion da black]

maybe anti matter bombs...

as known this technology exists but no body dares to experiment with it since the power of antimatter is devastating and may reach a thousand times of an H-bomb
that means good bye continents...earth crust and tidal waves, and earthquakes man made!

so clawn my friend...yes maybe humans will bring judgment day upon them sleves

[Derfel]

Originally Posted by scorpion da black

maybe anti matter bombs...

as known this technology exists but no body dares to experiment with it since the power of antimatter is devastating and may reach a thousand times of an H-bomb
that means good bye continents...earth crust and tidal waves, and earthquakes man made!

And just when we have such an awesome toy aliens aren't about to serve as test subjects. Hell, bring it on kill off ET.
Now that would be awesome, I'd rather have people fighting off aliens than people fighting each other. Feels more heroic, and more interesting as well.
Thinking of a human enemy I rarely get this "I want to rip his guts out." feeling, but when I think about aliens... we wouldn't have to hold back right? WE could go on a rampage and prove that we're the bloody dominant species and they're gonna live the rest of their life in oppression and slavery. Hell yeah!

[scorpion da black]

Originally Posted by Derfel

And just when we have such an awesome toy aliens aren't about to serve as test subjects. Hell, bring it on kill off ET.
Now that would be awesome, I'd rather have people fighting off aliens than people fighting each other. Feels more heroic, and more interesting as well.
Thinking of a human enemy I rarely get this "I want to rip his guts out." feeling, but when I think about aliens... we wouldn't have to hold back right? WE could go on a rampage and prove that we're the bloody dominant species and they're gonna live the rest of their life in oppression and slavery. Hell yeah!

i like that...humanity vs aliens....

we will show them who is boss
anti matter their ***
blow their mother planet to bits...

but what if they have something more powerful??
like dense accelerator sphere?? Albert Einestine proved that if some one can achieve a creation of a sphere...so dense yet so small in mass rotating in high speed then they could bend gravity...create a black hole and even destroy stars...

now that is cool

[Derfel]

Yeah but anyone who can do it probably has enough brains to not go around creating black holes all around
And if they use that, we'll bring in magic, they can't beat us in that field, a stronger magic than the strongest one always exists, many animes prove it.

[scorpion da black]

Originally Posted by Derfel

Yeah but anyone who can do it probably has enough brains to not go around creating black holes all around
And if they use that, we'll bring in magic, they can't beat us in that field, a stronger magic than the strongest one always exists, many animes prove it.

bro anti matter technology is available...it is at hand....which means creating an anti matter bomb is achievable ....in reality...it is just that nobody is brave enough or nuts to try and make a bomb that might wipe out two three countries off the map

black hole creation is also a fact proved through the calculations of Albert...
and though it is still theory on papers some one could get the technology to create such massive power..some time in the far far future ...

but magic, now that is superstition ...get us something devastating that sounds achievable!!! hahaha

[Derfel]

What? Magic eh?
Like invoking a dormant gene in people that makes them available to transfer energy, after all, if you can transfer energy, you can leech anyone dry of it, you can burn people with it, blow them up, same for aliens.
Something among these lines?

[scorpion da black]

Originally Posted by Derfel

What? Magic eh?
Like invoking a dormant gene in people that makes them available to transfer energy, after all, if you can transfer energy, you can leech anyone dry of it, you can burn people with it, blow them up, same for aliens.
Something among these lines?

you mean super powers...yeah that is achievable

[Derfel]

According the Aleister Crowley it is.

[centrajapan]

Alot of people say judgement day will come in 2012.

The Maya Culture I think believes that the calendar will end on the year 2012 and thats that. Thats 4 more years folks.

According to their calendar, the Maya believed that their world would end on Dec 21, 2012. Of all the dates put forth by prophets and cultures for a doomsday, this is one with an authentic almost eerie feel to it. But what will happen? A global cataclysm is one possibility.

http://survive2012.com/

I am a little worried myself to tell you the truth. Look at all the wars there are around the world. You would by now have thought people would learn not to bomb and kill each other over greed and difference in opinions. Animals are going extinct the world population is increasing, global warming etc etc.

[Doc]

We'll die when the oil runs out.

OR

When the Islamic fascists get nuclear weapons.

OR

When douse ourselves in gasoline and light ourselves on fire like those Buddhist monks in Vietnam.

OR

When the aliens invade this planet.

OR

When China kills us all.

OR

When we all die of massive outbreaks of STDs.

OR

When God decides to shake the Etch-a-Sketch and start a new.

OR

And the list goes on and on and on and on and on............

Until then, enjoy your prehistoric plant matter turned into black gold, having lots of unprotected sex and shaving your pubic hair off to help spread more STDs (including staff infections), and setting ourselves on fire for cake my friends. Oh and have a PC (political correct) new year!

-Doc