ichi the killer

jovial_jon · Oct 14, 2003, 21:03

hey everyone!

i bought ichi the killer and thought it was amazing. it may be a knee jerk reaction but it is probably up there with my favourite ever films.

i was wondering what other people who have seen it think of it? and also...Sabu, who plays Kaneko (or Kaneka...cant remember), is very familiar - what else have i seen him in?

i look forward to replies as i am intrigued to hear other peoples opinions on this film

arigato!

Arch · Oct 23, 2003, 19:17

Hey Jovial, this film never got released in the UK, nor did it come out on DVD. I think it was too disgusting for British audience, i did how ever see a clip of the movie and it looked very very sick !! A movie i wouldnt really want to watch, but as i have not seen the whole movie i can not really judge if it is a bad or a good movie!!!

jovial_jon · Oct 23, 2003, 19:19

thats odd...i bought it the other week from MVC! maybe it has only recently been released?

Arch · Oct 23, 2003, 19:23

where abouts do ya live jovial ??

jovial_jon · Oct 23, 2003, 19:25

north-west..just outside liverpool

Arch · Oct 23, 2003, 19:27

Well then i dont know m8, i prob just got it wrong !!! but i read in a movie magazine that it would never get released in the UK, it must have changed!!!!! anyways i still dint like what i saw of it !!

Nanahara · Oct 28, 2003, 02:12

I saw it last night.... wasn't what I expected....of course I watched it with about 7 other people and we werent taking anything to serious

Full_metal_gokudo · Oct 28, 2003, 09:31

Hi,
just thought id say that ICHI THE KILLER has certainly gone on my list of favourite films, it is one hell of a film, and if you where wondering about Sabu, he is a director in Japan, dont know what films he has done, but he made an appearence in Takashi Miikes SHINJUKU TRIAD SOCIETY, if i do recall correctly, plus the guy who plays Jiji is played by TETSUO director Shinya Tsukamoto, ICHI certainly has one hell of a cast, and if you want to get the uncut version of ICHI you should get the dutch filmworks 2 disc set its exactly the same as the uk premier asia release, but doesnt have the commentary, though it is uncut, the bbfc cut the film by 3 minutes and 15 seconds, which is compltely pointless as the violence in the film is intended to make to shock the audience and lessening this will just ruin its impact, still thats the sort of country we live in folks!!!

Chipi · Feb 1, 2004, 23:57

Saw it a little while ago. I think it has a lot of creepy twisted humour in it, so in itｴs way itｴs quite humorous and entertaining, but also very, very disgusting in itｴs blood party..

Eternal Wind · Feb 3, 2004, 18:40

I like the tongue slicing part

and the part where the room is filled with bloody thingy

Elbow · Feb 6, 2004, 12:33

I got hold of a copy of it with English subtitles. Its sitting on my PC in avi format.
Very good , but I havnt watched all of it.
I must look into jpnese movies available in UK so my old dear can send me some for my various birthdays.
The Boiling hot fat on the back was rather nice.

more tea vicar?

howabe · Feb 25, 2004, 05:18

Originally Posted by Arch

Hey Jovial, this film never got released in the UK, nor did it come out on DVD.

Yeah it did... and now it has an uncut European release ^ ^
So you lot can finally see the nipple scene...
I've said it before, and I'll say it again... this film is the absolute shiznit. My 2nd favourite of all time (behind Goldmember) and I got the Episode 0 anime of it last week... which is amazing too... especially seeing as Kakihara is voiced by Takashi Miike himself...
PS.
Tongue Scene!!!! ^ ^

ichi the killer · Mar 5, 2004, 20:24

i saw it when it came out azing movie one miikes best in my opinion anyone seen the anime it is just as good as the movie

BigBossIchi · Mar 6, 2004, 02:24

Here are my thoughts on ICHI THE KILLER I viewed the DUTCH 2 DVD SE. Great stuff!

catriona · Mar 19, 2004, 02:24

It gave me the same sick feeling as 'Man Bites Dog'. Apart from that it's a great film.

Zapan · Mar 24, 2004, 11:08

yeah Ichi is ok (some effects were a little cheesy but what can ya do), I read volumes 1-5 of Ichi and I liked them better than the film (i cant find the rest! theyre fansubs that i downloaded. can anyone help?) . but its definetely worth a watch if you can get passed the violence and gore. I personally would have chosen a better ending though (dont worry i'll try not to spoil it). I would have stopped it at the scene where Kakihara is on his knees and ichi is crying in the background (whatelse is new) and Kakihara says something like "damn...no one ever hurts me", If this sounds like a strange place to end it i disagree, i felt that that was the most dramatic and climactic part of the movie. where Kakihara is standing over ichi with his two needles "c'mon" "c'mon get up" not really commanding him but rather like a child begging to play or something, then that music begins to fade in and the camera moves out a little....its brilliant! definetely my favorite scenein the movie. but theyre ending dragged out and, i dont know, it just didnt suit me. good movie overall 7or 8 outta 10

now i want to see Miike's audition, i heard it was better. anyone know of a torrent website where i can get it?

Eternal Wind · Mar 24, 2004, 21:31

It is really gross,and my mum was like "why the hell do you watch this !?"

Elgin · Mar 25, 2004, 07:09

lol yes this movies rules

Eternal Wind · Mar 27, 2004, 06:31

I rate it as one of the best movies I've seen!!

Apollo · Mar 29, 2004, 00:44

I haven't seen the film, I must say that the first film (and only film) I saw by Takashi Miike really made me think about staying away from Miike's films for a couple of months.....

The one I saw was Miike's "Audition." It starts out as a nice romantic drama, however, the last 20-30 mins or so in the film suggests otherwise....I watched it with some friends, and one of them didn't have the nerves to see the rest of the film and sat in a different room waiting for the film to end....

Supposedly, many spectators...especially guys....left the cinema in Japan in the middle of the film, as it was too...erm....violent, bloody, too vivid.

However, as Ichi the Killer is such a cult-movie, I reckon that one day I will pull myself together and watch it, (I am curious to see it anyway)
If I can sit through a Tarantino movie, Battle Royale, and Suicide Club...I can watch Ichi...no? (haha)

has anyone seen "Audition? by the way?"

Elgin · Apr 2, 2004, 15:06

I've seen Audition, ya it was all drama at first but it got good at the end.

Don't worry go and watch Ichi the killer some parts are kinda funny.

I didn't find it all that disturbing, I though it would be worst. Maybe I watch to much of those surgery shows during my lunch break. Nothing better then a face lift with a tuna sandwich.

Eternal Wind · Apr 2, 2004, 17:11

You sure it's ok to eat while watching it!?

Apollo · Apr 26, 2004, 22:13

I have now watched Ichi....finally! And I must say that I too liked it. First, I didn't know how violent and sick it would be after having seen 'Audition.' HOwever, it wasn't anything that terrifying as Audition's last 30 minutes....Ichi was more 'mild', and humourous..with the funny dialogues like Tarantino would have planned it...phew! Some of the scenes were exaggerated, but overall, I liked it! [thumbs up]

**jeisan** · Apr 26, 2004, 22:26

which version did you see? the one distributed in the US is extemely edited, even the alternative video store that carries oddites and hard to find films didnt have an unedited copy. the only place ive seen an uncut version was on the net, and of course you could get one in japan.

Eternal Wind · Apr 26, 2004, 22:42

I got mine from the net!! spanish sub that is.........

Oct 14, 2003, 21:03	#1
jovial_jon Co-owner: Jovesca Records Join Date: Oct 4, 2003 Location: North West England Age: 24 Posts: 621	ichi the killer hey everyone! i bought ichi the killer and thought it was amazing. it may be a knee jerk reaction but it is probably up there with my favourite ever films. i was wondering what other people who have seen it think of it? and also...Sabu, who plays Kaneko (or Kaneka...cant remember), is very familiar - what else have i seen him in? i look forward to replies as i am intrigued to hear other peoples opinions on this film arigato!

Oct 28, 2003, 02:12	#7
Nanahara Regular Member Join Date: Aug 9, 2003 Location: Born in Germany, Harry was then relocated to England for three years before finally settling in Northern Ireland! Age: 21 Posts: 128	I saw it last night.... wasn't what I expected....of course I watched it with about 7 other people and we werent taking anything to serious __________________ Tuck Me In...

Feb 6, 2004, 12:33	#11
Elbow Junior Member Join Date: Jan 21, 2004 Location: Kawaguchi Posts: 7	I got hold of a copy of it with English subtitles. Its sitting on my PC in avi format. Very good , but I havnt watched all of it. I must look into jpnese movies available in UK so my old dear can send me some for my various birthdays. The Boiling hot fat on the back was rather nice. more tea vicar? __________________

Feb 25, 2004, 05:18	#12
howabe The Child Join Date: Dec 18, 2003 Location: Manchester Age: 23 Posts: 171	Originally Posted by Arch Hey Jovial, this film never got released in the UK, nor did it come out on DVD. Yeah it did... and now it has an uncut European release ^ ^ So you lot can finally see the nipple scene... I've said it before, and I'll say it again... this film is the absolute shiznit. My 2nd favourite of all time (behind Goldmember) and I got the Episode 0 anime of it last week... which is amazing too... especially seeing as Kakihara is voiced by Takashi Miike himself... PS. Tongue Scene!!!! ^ ^ __________________ I won the toss, so stickles are random and it's a 2-bounce ubique.

Mar 6, 2004, 02:24	#14
BigBossIchi Asahi Drinker Join Date: Feb 3, 2004 Location: Canada Age: 40 Posts: 110	Here are my thoughts on ICHI THE KILLER I viewed the DUTCH 2 DVD SE. Great stuff! __________________ Cinema From Around the World....Especially Japan! www.cinema-nocturna.com

Oct 23, 2003, 19:17	#2
Arch Recall Join Date: Jul 28, 2003 Location: Germany Age: 22 Posts: 447	Hey Jovial, this film never got released in the UK, nor did it come out on DVD. I think it was too disgusting for British audience, i did how ever see a clip of the movie and it looked very very sick !! A movie i wouldnt really want to watch, but as i have not seen the whole movie i can not really judge if it is a bad or a good movie!!!

Oct 23, 2003, 19:19	#3
jovial_jon Co-owner: Jovesca Records Join Date: Oct 4, 2003 Location: North West England Age: 24 Posts: 621	thats odd...i bought it the other week from MVC! maybe it has only recently been released?

Oct 23, 2003, 19:23	#4
Arch Recall Join Date: Jul 28, 2003 Location: Germany Age: 22 Posts: 447	where abouts do ya live jovial ??

Oct 23, 2003, 19:25	#5
jovial_jon Co-owner: Jovesca Records Join Date: Oct 4, 2003 Location: North West England Age: 24 Posts: 621	north-west..just outside liverpool

Oct 23, 2003, 19:27	#6
Arch Recall Join Date: Jul 28, 2003 Location: Germany Age: 22 Posts: 447	Well then i dont know m8, i prob just got it wrong !!! but i read in a movie magazine that it would never get released in the UK, it must have changed!!!!! anyways i still dint like what i saw of it !!

Oct 28, 2003, 09:31	#8
Full_metal_gokudo Junior Member Join Date: Oct 28, 2003 Location: united kingdom Age: 28 Posts: 6	Hi, just thought id say that ICHI THE KILLER has certainly gone on my list of favourite films, it is one hell of a film, and if you where wondering about Sabu, he is a director in Japan, dont know what films he has done, but he made an appearence in Takashi Miikes SHINJUKU TRIAD SOCIETY, if i do recall correctly, plus the guy who plays Jiji is played by TETSUO director Shinya Tsukamoto, ICHI certainly has one hell of a cast, and if you want to get the uncut version of ICHI you should get the dutch filmworks 2 disc set its exactly the same as the uk premier asia release, but doesnt have the commentary, though it is uncut, the bbfc cut the film by 3 minutes and 15 seconds, which is compltely pointless as the violence in the film is intended to make to shock the audience and lessening this will just ruin its impact, still thats the sort of country we live in folks!!!

Feb 1, 2004, 23:57	#9
Chipi Yancha-Kunoichi Join Date: Mar 10, 2003 Location: UK, Manchester / Finland, Lahti / Japan, Minokamo Age: 28 Posts: 357	Saw it a little while ago. I think it has a lot of creepy twisted humour in it, so in itｴs way itｴs quite humorous and entertaining, but also very, very disgusting in itｴs blood party..

Feb 3, 2004, 18:40	#10
Eternal Wind 聖天使 Join Date: Jan 30, 2004 Location: Singapore Age: 26 Posts: 663	I like the tongue slicing part and the part where the room is filled with bloody thingy

Mar 5, 2004, 20:24	#13
ichi the killer Junior Member Join Date: Mar 5, 2004 Location: uk Age: 23 Posts: 1	i saw it when it came out azing movie one miikes best in my opinion anyone seen the anime it is just as good as the movie

Mar 19, 2004, 02:24	#15
catriona Regular Member Join Date: Nov 25, 2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 20	It gave me the same sick feeling as 'Man Bites Dog'. Apart from that it's a great film.

Mar 24, 2004, 11:08	#16
Zapan BR volunteer Join Date: Mar 24, 2004 Location: American (damn...) Posts: 7	yeah Ichi is ok (some effects were a little cheesy but what can ya do), I read volumes 1-5 of Ichi and I liked them better than the film (i cant find the rest! theyre fansubs that i downloaded. can anyone help?) . but its definetely worth a watch if you can get passed the violence and gore. I personally would have chosen a better ending though (dont worry i'll try not to spoil it). I would have stopped it at the scene where Kakihara is on his knees and ichi is crying in the background (whatelse is new) and Kakihara says something like "damn...no one ever hurts me", If this sounds like a strange place to end it i disagree, i felt that that was the most dramatic and climactic part of the movie. where Kakihara is standing over ichi with his two needles "c'mon" "c'mon get up" not really commanding him but rather like a child begging to play or something, then that music begins to fade in and the camera moves out a little....its brilliant! definetely my favorite scenein the movie. but theyre ending dragged out and, i dont know, it just didnt suit me. good movie overall 7or 8 outta 10 now i want to see Miike's audition, i heard it was better. anyone know of a torrent website where i can get it? __________________ ~go then, there are other worlds than these

Mar 24, 2004, 21:31	#17
Eternal Wind 聖天使 Join Date: Jan 30, 2004 Location: Singapore Age: 26 Posts: 663	It is really gross,and my mum was like "why the hell do you watch this !?"

Mar 25, 2004, 07:09	#18
Elgin Regular Member Join Date: Oct 23, 2003 Posts: 736	lol yes this movies rules

Mar 27, 2004, 06:31	#19
Eternal Wind 聖天使 Join Date: Jan 30, 2004 Location: Singapore Age: 26 Posts: 663	I rate it as one of the best movies I've seen!!

Mar 29, 2004, 00:44	#20
Apollo Cat lover Join Date: Mar 28, 2004 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Age: 30 Posts: 1,593	I haven't seen the film, I must say that the first film (and only film) I saw by Takashi Miike really made me think about staying away from Miike's films for a couple of months..... The one I saw was Miike's "Audition." It starts out as a nice romantic drama, however, the last 20-30 mins or so in the film suggests otherwise....I watched it with some friends, and one of them didn't have the nerves to see the rest of the film and sat in a different room waiting for the film to end.... Supposedly, many spectators...especially guys....left the cinema in Japan in the middle of the film, as it was too...erm....violent, bloody, too vivid. However, as Ichi the Killer is such a cult-movie, I reckon that one day I will pull myself together and watch it, (I am curious to see it anyway) If I can sit through a Tarantino movie, Battle Royale, and Suicide Club...I can watch Ichi...no? (haha) has anyone seen "Audition? by the way?" __________________

Apr 2, 2004, 15:06	#21
Elgin Regular Member Join Date: Oct 23, 2003 Posts: 736	I've seen Audition, ya it was all drama at first but it got good at the end. Don't worry go and watch Ichi the killer some parts are kinda funny. I didn't find it all that disturbing, I though it would be worst. Maybe I watch to much of those surgery shows during my lunch break. Nothing better then a face lift with a tuna sandwich.

Apr 2, 2004, 17:11	#22
Eternal Wind 聖天使 Join Date: Jan 30, 2004 Location: Singapore Age: 26 Posts: 663	You sure it's ok to eat while watching it!?

Apr 26, 2004, 22:13	#23
Apollo Cat lover Join Date: Mar 28, 2004 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Age: 30 Posts: 1,593	I have now watched Ichi....finally! And I must say that I too liked it. First, I didn't know how violent and sick it would be after having seen 'Audition.' HOwever, it wasn't anything that terrifying as Audition's last 30 minutes....Ichi was more 'mild', and humourous..with the funny dialogues like Tarantino would have planned it...phew! Some of the scenes were exaggerated, but overall, I liked it! [thumbs up]

Apr 26, 2004, 22:26	#24
jeisan Kongming Join Date: Feb 24, 2003 Location: san antonio, texas Age: 26 Posts: 2,848	which version did you see? the one distributed in the US is extemely edited, even the alternative video store that carries oddites and hard to find films didnt have an unedited copy. the only place ive seen an uncut version was on the net, and of course you could get one in japan. __________________ Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity. =[Signature Guidelines]==[User Titles]==[Forum Rules]=

Apr 26, 2004, 22:42	#25
Eternal Wind 聖天使 Join Date: Jan 30, 2004 Location: Singapore Age: 26 Posts: 663	I got mine from the net!! spanish sub that is.........

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