11 digit number for the masses

moyashi · Aug 5, 2002, 16:56

Surprised this hasn't been picked up yet.

Japan is "going to" implement a Social Security like number to it's people.

ok, I'm not completely sure this is going to happen or not but the news is full of it recently.

Problems that many are complaing that "personal privacy" is going to be impacted upon. You've got police in Kumamoto-Ken who have free access to citizens records and what not going on.

Of course, nobody mentions that the Japanese internet is still very young and full of security holes.

Hmmm ... I don't mind the number so much, I'm much more worried about the privacy issues. Japan used to be very easy to get any information you want about people at the city office. It was just a simple form you had to fill out. those days have passed but still.

I've also had checks by the police about who was living in my apartment. Nothing bad, just standard procedure.

thomas · Aug 5, 2002, 19:03

I've just read about it this morning. Big Brother's watching you, hehe.

National registry system launches amid criticism

=> http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content...at=1&id=225427

Is the new system also applied to foreign residents?

moyashi · Aug 5, 2002, 20:47

hmmm I've been wondering about that.

I already have a number and a while back finger printing was no longer necessary. Great, they already have mine so no difference.

I'm a registered Alien.

thomas · Aug 8, 2002, 06:21

First leak reported.

Japanese ID system reports data leak

Privacy fears resurrected with nationwide program mishap

Tokyo, Japan (AP) -- Japan's new nationwide identification system reported its first data leak on Wednesday, just two days after the program was launched amid widespread fear it would be prone to breaches of privacy.

=> http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/ptech/0....ap/index.html

moyashi · Aug 8, 2002, 17:53

like I said above. Their internet security is still infatile compared to the US.

Here's some more. Aparently, Fujitsu threatened the government that if they don't use their system they'll like IP numbers and such to North Korea. I'm not sure this is related to the 11 digits but still ... I like their mentality ;)

Also, this new system pretty much came out of the blue. People have already begun to get their numbers. So, much of the populace is surprised and even the TV reporters.

hmmmmm ....

thomas · Aug 9, 2002, 07:26

Sounds like blackmailing to me...

moyashi · Aug 9, 2002, 09:46

Oh course it's blackmail. Pretty cool business practice. For once the government gets blackmailed instead of the government blackmailing the businesses.

thomas · Aug 15, 2002, 06:55

An here's one more from the "Economist".

There's always someone looking at you預nd the people don't like it

=> http://www.economist.com/printeditio...ory_ID=1273582

moyashi · Aug 16, 2002, 01:04

hehe, first screw ups already showing up.

I saw on the news where a town got 9 and 10 digit numbers. They were supposed to be 11 digits ;)

great

Aug 5, 2002, 16:56	#1
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	11 digit number for the masses Surprised this hasn't been picked up yet. Japan is "going to" implement a Social Security like number to it's people. ok, I'm not completely sure this is going to happen or not but the news is full of it recently. Problems that many are complaing that "personal privacy" is going to be impacted upon. You've got police in Kumamoto-Ken who have free access to citizens records and what not going on. Of course, nobody mentions that the Japanese internet is still very young and full of security holes. Hmmm ... I don't mind the number so much, I'm much more worried about the privacy issues. Japan used to be very easy to get any information you want about people at the city office. It was just a simple form you had to fill out. those days have passed but still. I've also had checks by the police about who was living in my apartment. Nothing bad, just standard procedure. __________________ crazy gonna crazy

Aug 5, 2002, 19:03	#2
thomas Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Mar 14, 2002 Posts: 4,209	I've just read about it this morning. Big Brother's watching you, hehe. National registry system launches amid criticism => http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content...at=1&id=225427 Is the new system also applied to foreign residents? __________________ Remember what the dormouse said, feed your head, feed your head!

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Aug 5, 2002, 20:47	#3
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	hmmm I've been wondering about that. I already have a number and a while back finger printing was no longer necessary. Great, they already have mine so no difference. I'm a registered Alien.

Aug 8, 2002, 06:21	#4
thomas Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Mar 14, 2002 Posts: 4,209	First leak reported. Japanese ID system reports data leak Privacy fears resurrected with nationwide program mishap Tokyo, Japan (AP) -- Japan's new nationwide identification system reported its first data leak on Wednesday, just two days after the program was launched amid widespread fear it would be prone to breaches of privacy. => http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/ptech/0....ap/index.html

Aug 8, 2002, 17:53	#5
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	like I said above. Their internet security is still infatile compared to the US. Here's some more. Aparently, Fujitsu threatened the government that if they don't use their system they'll like IP numbers and such to North Korea. I'm not sure this is related to the 11 digits but still ... I like their mentality ;) Also, this new system pretty much came out of the blue. People have already begun to get their numbers. So, much of the populace is surprised and even the TV reporters. hmmmmm ....

Aug 9, 2002, 07:26	#6
thomas Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Mar 14, 2002 Posts: 4,209	Sounds like blackmailing to me... Anyhow, it seems that some towns and communities put up resistance to these plans. Oh, find more news reports on the 11-digits plan below (taken from a mailing list, forgot which one): Mainichi Daily http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/news/20020...fp021000c.html http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/news/20020...fp024002c.html http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/news/20020...fp007000c.html http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/news/archi...dm021000c.html http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/news/20020...dm011002c.html http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/news/20020...fp029000c.html http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/news/archi...dm025001c.html http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/news/archi...fp025000c.html http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/news/archi...dm011001c.html Reuters http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ification_dc_3 BBC http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/2173003.stm AP http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...an_id_system_5 Slashdot http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?s...228203&tid=158

Aug 9, 2002, 09:46	#7
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	Oh course it's blackmail. Pretty cool business practice. For once the government gets blackmailed instead of the government blackmailing the businesses.

Aug 16, 2002, 01:04	#9
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	hehe, first screw ups already showing up. I saw on the news where a town got 9 and 10 digit numbers. They were supposed to be 11 digits ;) great