Can a strong gender role separation increase prositution ?

Maciamo · Dec 12, 2003, 22:57

The following comment from the BBC's talking point Condoms and culture: Ask the experts has made me wondered if Japan's rampant sex trade had anything to do with gender role (namely that the men get the high salaries, while women serve tea or just stay at home).

Sex in Africa for most women is regarded as a source for material gains (including sex in return for food). As long as we do not fight poverty, Aids will continue decimating the sub-Saharan people.

It seems to me that most Japanese girls who are in the "sex trade" (be it direct prostitution, enjo kosai, or just pornography, tere-kura, hostess bar or selling their used panties to perverts...) all want to get a lot of money in exchange for sexually related services. I could thus change the above sentence by : Sex in Japan for most women is regarded as a source for material gains (including sex in return for brand clothes, handbags, trips to hot springs and expensive restaurants).

As long as women don't have the same work opportunity as men in culture so open to sex as Japan (read non Judeo-Christo-Islamic), (good-looking) women will continue to take advantage of their body to make easy money. The worst is that even if perfect gender equality is achieved, as long as mentalities regarding sex and the risk of STD's don't evolve, Japanese (and other East Asian) women will have no scrupule to do make money from their feminity.

dadako · Dec 13, 2003, 09:10

how can you bang on about in-equality etc all the time?
I find your view of japan and japanese women to be very low. And frankly, ignorant. Nearly all the japanese women I know work in equal status to thier male counterparts, none of them "make the tea" however they do enjoy being WOMEN! Not fat obstanant loud mouthed robots which could be the percived view from japan to western women.

Stereotypes are a dangerous thing (just like my spelling)

It could be said that the sex trade is for women to take advantage of men's insecurity and general lack of self control, and reciving monetery gains. One girl I know wears a bunny suit and serves men tea / beer, but it pays well - the men dont touch her and the she gets the savings she needs to do something else in life.

Also, I think the way people think about sex is totally different in japan. its a leisure activity like karaoke and snowboarding. Well ok its not that casual, but it is seen as a bit of slap and tickle and mostly harmless - in fact benifical to a lot of problems.

Ewok85 · Dec 13, 2003, 22:32

but it is seen as a bit of slap and tickle and mostly harmless

That too is not such a great view.

Dec 12, 2003, 22:57	#1
Maciamo Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Jul 17, 2002 Location: Austrasia Posts: 6,647	Can a strong gender role separation increase prositution ? The following comment from the BBC's talking point Condoms and culture: Ask the experts has made me wondered if Japan's rampant sex trade had anything to do with gender role (namely that the men get the high salaries, while women serve tea or just stay at home). Sex in Africa for most women is regarded as a source for material gains (including sex in return for food). As long as we do not fight poverty, Aids will continue decimating the sub-Saharan people. It seems to me that most Japanese girls who are in the "sex trade" (be it direct prostitution, enjo kosai, or just pornography, tere-kura, hostess bar or selling their used panties to perverts...) all want to get a lot of money in exchange for sexually related services. I could thus change the above sentence by : Sex in Japan for most women is regarded as a source for material gains (including sex in return for brand clothes, handbags, trips to hot springs and expensive restaurants). As long as women don't have the same work opportunity as men in culture so open to sex as Japan (read non Judeo-Christo-Islamic), (good-looking) women will continue to take advantage of their body to make easy money. The worst is that even if perfect gender equality is achieved, as long as mentalities regarding sex and the risk of STD's don't evolve, Japanese (and other East Asian) women will have no scrupule to do make money from their feminity. __________________ Over 100 destinations in the Japan Sightseeing Guide + detailed Tokyo Guide and Kyoto Guide Eupedia : Your Guide to Europe in English Read the "Maciamo FAQ" "What is the use of living, if it be not to strive for noble causes and to make this muddled world a better place for those who will live in it after we are gone?", Winston Churchill.

Dec 13, 2003, 09:10	#2
dadako super famicom Join Date: Dec 1, 2003 Location: 渋谷区 Age: 31 Posts: 182	how can you bang on about in-equality etc all the time? I find your view of japan and japanese women to be very low. And frankly, ignorant. Nearly all the japanese women I know work in equal status to thier male counterparts, none of them "make the tea" however they do enjoy being WOMEN! Not fat obstanant loud mouthed robots which could be the percived view from japan to western women. Stereotypes are a dangerous thing (just like my spelling) It could be said that the sex trade is for women to take advantage of men's insecurity and general lack of self control, and reciving monetery gains. One girl I know wears a bunny suit and serves men tea / beer, but it pays well - the men dont touch her and the she gets the savings she needs to do something else in life. Also, I think the way people think about sex is totally different in japan. its a leisure activity like karaoke and snowboarding. Well ok its not that casual, but it is seen as a bit of slap and tickle and mostly harmless - in fact benifical to a lot of problems. __________________ http://www.dadako.com/

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Dec 13, 2003, 22:32	#3
Ewok85 Cute and Furry Join Date: Nov 14, 2003 Location: Saitama/Tokyo Age: 24 Posts: 2,343	but it is seen as a bit of slap and tickle and mostly harmless That too is not such a great view.