what's going on with the enjo kosay and kogals?

hippityhop · Dec 25, 2003, 05:52

i just recently met a japanese girl here and she was one. when i asked her about it, she didn't feel embarrassed nor guilty. it's like, hey, i got paid good money for something i givefrrely to my "boyfriend" anyways

money for sex because of harsh economic circumstances is one thing, sex for money so you can buy expensive clothes, accessories is just pathetic. then again , i am not the girl doing it so who knows what goes on in their twisted minds....

Timsan · Jan 9, 2004, 10:07

if i was getting offered like $500 dollars to do some decent looking chick i Probably would :\

i think thers a difference between choosing to do that then a flat out hooker

Karri · Jan 9, 2004, 16:29

For one thing I can't really repect a woman who sells her body for money. It may be an easy way to make the money to get what they need, but what about all the risk that comes with sleeping with so many people. If the girl has a man, and if he knows she is doing such a thing he should put a stop to it. Now what if she give HIV to her boyfriend from doing a job of low status. I say get a decent job to get what you want in life. I don't care how hard I may struggle with money, which I don't because I get paid well, but I would never dishonor myself for anything nor anyone.

jet_dee · Mar 10, 2004, 02:44

Hmm . I often joke to my friends that I'd become a gigolo in Japan for the money, but I'd probably reach a few moral quandaries myself. Consider that prostitutes will sleep with ANYBODY, so it's not really selling something that you would give your partner for free, that would equate to you having no standards, and taking anyone as your partner.
Also, if my girlfriend was one, I'd want to help her out of it, because there's a lot of insane men who kill prostitutes nowadays.
Then again, for an uber-male's point of view, you get to f**k loads, and get paid for doing something you enjoy. What bloke wouldn't want that?

Keeni84 · Mar 10, 2004, 04:13

I don't see anything wrong with prostitution. Sex is sex. In fact, I wish prostitutes could have labor unions (which would include heathcare and hazard insurance) and would also require stuff like proof of age, etc. Also, if it became legal and sex workers got labor unions, there would be no need for the pimp at all.

I don't understand what the big hang up is about having sex for money. And people who do this are not "twisted", no more than the average mine worker or high rise worker.

budd · Mar 10, 2004, 06:31

yep, that's what's wrong with america... thirteen year-olds can buy a rifle (to do who knows what), but stuff, maxim, etc. have been banned from wal-mart regardless of purchaser's age

Matthew C. Perry · Mar 10, 2004, 13:24

Originally Posted by Keeni84

I don't see anything wrong with prostitution.

I tend to agree. It ought to be legal for consenting adults. But "enjo kosail" is about junior high school girls, sometimes even elementary school girls who are obviously far to young to decide for themselves whether or not selling their bodies is a good idea. Adults involved in that industry ought to be sent to American prisons where they can learn all about the issue of unconsentual sex.

TwistedMac · Mar 10, 2004, 19:09

Originally Posted by Matthew C. Perry

I tend to agree. It ought to be legal for consenting adults. But "enjo kosail" is about junior high school girls, sometimes even elementary school girls who are obviously far to young to decide for themselves whether or not selling their bodies is a good idea. Adults involved in that industry ought to be sent to American prisons where they can learn all about the issue of unconsentual sex.

HOO-YA! having a guy named Bubba unwrap their package!

*christmas is here, little chink* *IIIEEEEEEEEE!!!*

Amazinggrace · Jul 25, 2004, 20:26

Originally Posted by Keeni84

I don't see anything wrong with prostitution. Sex is sex. In fact, I wish prostitutes could have labor unions (which would include heathcare and hazard insurance) and would also require stuff like proof of age, etc. Also, if it became legal and sex workers got labor unions, there would be no need for the pimp at all.

I don't understand what the big hang up is about having sex for money. And people who do this are not "twisted", no more than the average mine worker or high rise worker.

yeah lets see you say the same thing once you know your daughter is a hooker getting fingered in every hole by some dirty filthy perverted oyaji.

another thing.....are you aware of the suicide rate for girls/women who have sold themselves only to end up guilt ridden? J girls are not like western women who are strong minded. J girls are easily led to the dark path of temptation.
its a said issue. I think any oyaji caught with a prostitute should be horse whipped. and If I caught an oyaji with a young girl and I knew what he was doing I would personally take my belt off and beat "it" like a dog.
yes im F`d up like that.

RockLee · Jul 25, 2004, 23:50

Well....in 1 case I approve...if the woman is older and knows what she's doing.Because nowadays there are so many rapers that I think they should get sex with some prostitue rather than rape some girl/woman.IN the other hand, there are so many young girls that are taken advantage off that it"s so sad

Note: Some girls tend to look younger than they really are, with asian girls they can like show a 22 yo girl and say she's 17 or 18...

bossel · Jul 26, 2004, 00:06

Originally Posted by Amazinggrace

yeah lets see you say the same thing once you know your daughter is a hooker getting fingered in every hole by some dirty filthy perverted oyaji.

If she's adult & doing it voluntarily, it's not your business anyway.

another thing.....are you aware of the suicide rate for girls/women who have sold themselves only to end up guilt ridden?

No, I'm not. Anyway, ending up guilt ridden is a fault of the society which induces these guilt feelings through overcome morals.

its a said issue. I think any oyaji caught with a prostitute should be horse whipped. and If I caught an oyaji with a young girl and I knew what he was doing I would personally take my belt off and beat "it" like a dog.
yes im F`d up like that.

Yes, you are.
Prostitution is just a business like any other (at least it should be).

Mike Cash · Jul 26, 2004, 07:54

Originally Posted by budd

yep, that's what's wrong with america... thirteen year-olds can buy a rifle (to do who knows what), but stuff, maxim, etc. have been banned from wal-mart regardless of purchaser's age

I have never understood people who, when disparaging America, feel a need to resort to the use of hyperbole, distortions, and incorrect information. If one is of a mind to disparage America, it can be done quite easily and effectively while confining one's self strictly to factual statements.

Originally Posted by fromtheweb

The following classes of people are ineligible to possess, receive, ship, or transport firearms or ammunition:

Those convicted of crimes punishable by imprisonment for over one year, except state misdemeanors punishable by two years or less.
Fugitives from justice.
Unlawful users of certain depressant, narcotic, or stimulant drugs.
Those adjudicated as mental defectives or incompetents or those committed to any mental institution.
Illegal aliens.
Citizens who have renounced their citizenship.
Those persons dishonorably discharged from the Armed Forces.
Persons less than 18 years of age for the purchase of a shotgun or rifle.
Persons less than 21 years of age for the purchase of a firearm that is other than a shotgun or rifle.
Persons subject to a court order that restrains such persons from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner.
Persons convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence.

PopCulturePooka · Jul 26, 2004, 11:08

Originally Posted by bossel

If she's adult & doing it voluntarily, it's not your business anyway.

Keep up. Theya re talking about children. Under 18's for the most part.

And if it was my daughter it'd sure as hell be my business regardless of her age

No, I'm not. Anyway, ending up guilt ridden is a fault of the society which induces these guilt feelings through overcome morals.

Or the guilt that you debased yourself and let some dirty, stinking, natto-breathed old shithead debase you in every way for a fricking Louis Vatton bag too keep up with your friends. Because lord knows NOT having an LV bag is much worse than not having your dignity.

Yes, you are.
Prostitution is just a business like any other (at least it should be).

For legal consenting adults.

digicross · Jul 28, 2004, 12:59

Enjo Kosai is a general term, it's doubtful that many (most?) that do it thinks of sexual intercourse when they do it, to some it's just a way of pleasing people (and maybe also yourself) and getting some extra cash.

As for kogyaru's attitudes.

Well... That's girls, it's actually not limited to Japan, nor any particular time era.

Though it should be noted that girls that gone unsupervised could lead to negative situations.

As for socialization with compensation.

Er... This is an age old thing, and I don't mean sex for money.

One of the oldest example is marriage. One of the most recent ones is dating. It's not strange at all though should a girl proposed to go on a date in exchange of her protection, or perharps just to have fun.

"Jaa nee... Deeto ikkai!" ("Well then... One date!")

Okay, be honest, how many Gils did you spent on the date or to get the date?

As for sexual intercourse for money.

Well... Marriage is also a kind of way is a sexual intercourse for money or any other type of compensation, provided there's a sexual intercourse in thr marriage.

Now for girls having sexual intercourse in exchange for money or other type of compensation.

I think that the question that should be ask is... has the permission already been given for a sexual intercourse?

If the girl is an orphan without any guardian, then... I guess that's really up for her to do things according to what she wants.

But if the girl has a parent or a guardian, then... what's her parent or guardian say regarding this matter? Like someone once said, the parent or guardian don't care how old she really, what they want is, has she been given permission by them to do so?

As for having sexual intercourse with young girls.

It should be noted that teenage girls are actually adults. And the last few thousands years, that is what it always been, only recently that their status as adults were dropped and they're reduced as mere children until the age of 18 years old (or even 21 years old?). As matter in fact, the term 'teenager' is only a term that was used recently.

Of course, by the time they're 18 years old, they're pretty quite old. So I guess you see the reason on why men actually prefered teenage girls than... ahem, 'older girls'.

Dec 25, 2003, 05:52	#1
hippityhop Junior Member Join Date: Dec 25, 2003 Posts: 14	what's going on with the enjo kosay and kogals? i just recently met a japanese girl here and she was one. when i asked her about it, she didn't feel embarrassed nor guilty. it's like, hey, i got paid good money for something i givefrrely to my "boyfriend" anyways money for sex because of harsh economic circumstances is one thing, sex for money so you can buy expensive clothes, accessories is just pathetic. then again , i am not the girl doing it so who knows what goes on in their twisted minds....

Jan 9, 2004, 10:07	#2
Timsan Regular Member Join Date: Dec 4, 2003 Location: Alaska/Alaskan Native (Inupiat) Age: 22 Posts: 241	if i was getting offered like $500 dollars to do some decent looking chick i Probably would :\ i think thers a difference between choosing to do that then a flat out hooker __________________ "A single death is a tradgedy, a million deaths is a statistic." - Stalin Last edited by Iron Chef; Jan 11, 2004 at 17:16.

Mar 10, 2004, 04:13	#5
Keeni84 Regular Member Join Date: Oct 25, 2003 Location: American (mult/AfricanAmerican) Age: 25 Posts: 133	I don't see anything wrong with prostitution. Sex is sex. In fact, I wish prostitutes could have labor unions (which would include heathcare and hazard insurance) and would also require stuff like proof of age, etc. Also, if it became legal and sex workers got labor unions, there would be no need for the pimp at all. I don't understand what the big hang up is about having sex for money. And people who do this are not "twisted", no more than the average mine worker or high rise worker. __________________ 馬鹿も一芸。。。

Mar 10, 2004, 13:24	#7
Matthew C. Perry Banned Join Date: Jan 18, 2004 Posts: 82	Originally Posted by Keeni84 I don't see anything wrong with prostitution. I tend to agree. It ought to be legal for consenting adults. But "enjo kosail" is about junior high school girls, sometimes even elementary school girls who are obviously far to young to decide for themselves whether or not selling their bodies is a good idea. Adults involved in that industry ought to be sent to American prisons where they can learn all about the issue of unconsentual sex.

Mar 10, 2004, 19:09	#8
TwistedMac 夜露死苦! Join Date: Mar 4, 2004 Location: orz.eu Age: 27 Posts: 2,044	Originally Posted by Matthew C. Perry I tend to agree. It ought to be legal for consenting adults. But "enjo kosail" is about junior high school girls, sometimes even elementary school girls who are obviously far to young to decide for themselves whether or not selling their bodies is a good idea. Adults involved in that industry ought to be sent to American prisons where they can learn all about the issue of unconsentual sex. HOO-YA! having a guy named Bubba unwrap their package! christmas is here, little chink IIIEEEEEEEEE!!! __________________ 夜露死苦! www.orz.eu I find affence at your post as I ware eyeglass and have lmited site. Sankyuu~! http://japan.orz.eu - A site for my trip to Japan.

Jan 9, 2004, 16:29	#3
Karri Junior Member Join Date: Sep 22, 2003 Age: 30 Posts: 10	For one thing I can't really repect a woman who sells her body for money. It may be an easy way to make the money to get what they need, but what about all the risk that comes with sleeping with so many people. If the girl has a man, and if he knows she is doing such a thing he should put a stop to it. Now what if she give HIV to her boyfriend from doing a job of low status. I say get a decent job to get what you want in life. I don't care how hard I may struggle with money, which I don't because I get paid well, but I would never dishonor myself for anything nor anyone.

Mar 10, 2004, 02:44	#4
jet_dee Regular Member Join Date: Mar 8, 2004 Location: Birmingham, UK Age: 23 Posts: 80	Hmm . I often joke to my friends that I'd become a gigolo in Japan for the money, but I'd probably reach a few moral quandaries myself. Consider that prostitutes will sleep with ANYBODY, so it's not really selling something that you would give your partner for free, that would equate to you having no standards, and taking anyone as your partner. Also, if my girlfriend was one, I'd want to help her out of it, because there's a lot of insane men who kill prostitutes nowadays. Then again, for an uber-male's point of view, you get to f**k loads, and get paid for doing something you enjoy. What bloke wouldn't want that?

Mar 10, 2004, 06:31	#6
budd __________ Join Date: Jul 10, 2003 Posts: 1,972	yep, that's what's wrong with america... thirteen year-olds can buy a rifle (to do who knows what), but stuff, maxim, etc. have been banned from wal-mart regardless of purchaser's age

Jul 25, 2004, 20:26	#9
Amazinggrace Regular Member Join Date: Jul 18, 2004 Posts: 29	Originally Posted by Keeni84 I don't see anything wrong with prostitution. Sex is sex. In fact, I wish prostitutes could have labor unions (which would include heathcare and hazard insurance) and would also require stuff like proof of age, etc. Also, if it became legal and sex workers got labor unions, there would be no need for the pimp at all. I don't understand what the big hang up is about having sex for money. And people who do this are not "twisted", no more than the average mine worker or high rise worker. yeah lets see you say the same thing once you know your daughter is a hooker getting fingered in every hole by some dirty filthy perverted oyaji. another thing.....are you aware of the suicide rate for girls/women who have sold themselves only to end up guilt ridden? J girls are not like western women who are strong minded. J girls are easily led to the dark path of temptation. its a said issue. I think any oyaji caught with a prostitute should be horse whipped. and If I caught an oyaji with a young girl and I knew what he was doing I would personally take my belt off and beat "it" like a dog. yes im F`d up like that.

Jul 25, 2004, 23:50	#10
RockLee Hullu Join Date: Apr 22, 2004 Location: Espoo Age: 26 Posts: 3,084	Well....in 1 case I approve...if the woman is older and knows what she's doing.Because nowadays there are so many rapers that I think they should get sex with some prostitue rather than rape some girl/woman.IN the other hand, there are so many young girls that are taken advantage off that it"s so sad Note: Some girls tend to look younger than they really are, with asian girls they can like show a 22 yo girl and say she's 17 or 18... __________________ ~ Parempi hullu kuin tylsä - Better crazy than boring ~ http://www.fin-style.be/blog -> My Blog about Finland and other random thingies.

Jul 26, 2004, 00:06	#11
bossel Regular Member Join Date: Sep 28, 2003 Location: germany Posts: 1,655	Originally Posted by Amazinggrace yeah lets see you say the same thing once you know your daughter is a hooker getting fingered in every hole by some dirty filthy perverted oyaji. If she's adult & doing it voluntarily, it's not your business anyway. another thing.....are you aware of the suicide rate for girls/women who have sold themselves only to end up guilt ridden? No, I'm not. Anyway, ending up guilt ridden is a fault of the society which induces these guilt feelings through overcome morals. its a said issue. I think any oyaji caught with a prostitute should be horse whipped. and If I caught an oyaji with a young girl and I knew what he was doing I would personally take my belt off and beat "it" like a dog. yes im F`d up like that. Yes, you are. Prostitution is just a business like any other (at least it should be).

Jul 26, 2004, 07:54	#12
Mike Cash Delusions of Adequacy Join Date: Mar 15, 2002 Location: Japan Posts: 5,417	Originally Posted by budd yep, that's what's wrong with america... thirteen year-olds can buy a rifle (to do who knows what), but stuff, maxim, etc. have been banned from wal-mart regardless of purchaser's age I have never understood people who, when disparaging America, feel a need to resort to the use of hyperbole, distortions, and incorrect information. If one is of a mind to disparage America, it can be done quite easily and effectively while confining one's self strictly to factual statements. Originally Posted by fromtheweb The following classes of people are ineligible to possess, receive, ship, or transport firearms or ammunition: Those convicted of crimes punishable by imprisonment for over one year, except state misdemeanors punishable by two years or less. Fugitives from justice. Unlawful users of certain depressant, narcotic, or stimulant drugs. Those adjudicated as mental defectives or incompetents or those committed to any mental institution. Illegal aliens. Citizens who have renounced their citizenship. Those persons dishonorably discharged from the Armed Forces. Persons less than 18 years of age for the purchase of a shotgun or rifle. Persons less than 21 years of age for the purchase of a firearm that is other than a shotgun or rifle. Persons subject to a court order that restrains such persons from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner. Persons convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence.

Jul 26, 2004, 11:08	#13
PopCulturePooka Go to shopping Join Date: Jul 8, 2004 Age: 28 Posts: 652	Originally Posted by bossel If she's adult & doing it voluntarily, it's not your business anyway. Keep up. Theya re talking about children. Under 18's for the most part. And if it was my daughter it'd sure as hell be my business regardless of her age No, I'm not. Anyway, ending up guilt ridden is a fault of the society which induces these guilt feelings through overcome morals. Or the guilt that you debased yourself and let some dirty, stinking, natto-breathed old shithead debase you in every way for a fricking Louis Vatton bag too keep up with your friends. Because lord knows NOT having an LV bag is much worse than not having your dignity. Yes, you are. Prostitution is just a business like any other (at least it should be). For legal consenting adults. __________________ Do you know stuff?

Jul 28, 2004, 12:59	#14
digicross Regular Member Join Date: Jul 16, 2004 Posts: 120	Enjo Kosai is a general term. Enjo Kosai is a general term, it's doubtful that many (most?) that do it thinks of sexual intercourse when they do it, to some it's just a way of pleasing people (and maybe also yourself) and getting some extra cash. As for kogyaru's attitudes. Well... That's girls, it's actually not limited to Japan, nor any particular time era. Though it should be noted that girls that gone unsupervised could lead to negative situations. As for socialization with compensation. Er... This is an age old thing, and I don't mean sex for money. One of the oldest example is marriage. One of the most recent ones is dating. It's not strange at all though should a girl proposed to go on a date in exchange of her protection, or perharps just to have fun. "Jaa nee... Deeto ikkai!" ("Well then... One date!") Okay, be honest, how many Gils did you spent on the date or to get the date? As for sexual intercourse for money. Well... Marriage is also a kind of way is a sexual intercourse for money or any other type of compensation, provided there's a sexual intercourse in thr marriage. Now for girls having sexual intercourse in exchange for money or other type of compensation. I think that the question that should be ask is... has the permission already been given for a sexual intercourse? If the girl is an orphan without any guardian, then... I guess that's really up for her to do things according to what she wants. But if the girl has a parent or a guardian, then... what's her parent or guardian say regarding this matter? Like someone once said, the parent or guardian don't care how old she really, what they want is, has she been given permission by them to do so? As for having sexual intercourse with young girls. It should be noted that teenage girls are actually adults. And the last few thousands years, that is what it always been, only recently that their status as adults were dropped and they're reduced as mere children until the age of 18 years old (or even 21 years old?). As matter in fact, the term 'teenager' is only a term that was used recently. Of course, by the time they're 18 years old, they're pretty quite old. So I guess you see the reason on why men actually prefered teenage girls than... ahem, 'older girls'.

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