Hotaru no Haka -- Grave of the Fireflies

moyashi · Aug 15, 2002, 00:25

Ok ... this anime was talked about in other threads but I thought I break it off on it's own.

I just watched it again. I never thought I'd be brave enough to watch it again but I did.

This was a different version. The ending was different.

The brother was sitting on a bench over looking modern day Kobe.

The version I saw before had him standing alone, half dead at a station.

Ok, anyway the poll. Did you cry or not?

thomas · Aug 15, 2002, 00:39

Yes, definitely, and I would cry again.

Oh, I thought there's only one version.

MHtrStevie · Aug 15, 2002, 04:30

I'm impressed, moyashi... I've debated whether or not I could watch "Grave of the Fireflies" again. A fantastic film, but a very emotional experience...

And yes, I did cry... I think it still stands as the only anime that's ever overcome me emotionally.

moyashi · Aug 16, 2002, 00:42

My wife turned it on actually. I being the anime lover I let that part of me prevail.

So folks which ending did you all see?

thomas · Aug 16, 2002, 01:17

As far as I can remember the very end Seita, Setsuko's brother (just checked their names), is sitting at a station, on the brink of death because of starvation and grief, hallucinating about his little sister.

moyashi · Aug 16, 2002, 23:05

1.) Seita was at a station ??? standing next to a greyish pillar, hallucinating on the brink of death

2.) (the other night) Seita was sitting on a bench thinking of his sister or hallucinating. The view was of Kobe from Rokko Mountains in Ashiya.

I got a box of those drops from a student, and I just can't open it. I keep remembering the movie.

thomas · Aug 16, 2002, 23:42

I'll consult Miyuki-san, I am sure she can help...

Scott · Aug 17, 2002, 02:44

Odd..the version that I have, had the brother sitting at the station in the beginning with some dialogue like 'This is the day I died'. It showed him slowly dying and then meeting the ghost of his sister while they caught fireflies and took a ride on a train. After this is then started with the story of how this all happened. And at the very end it was of the brother watching over the modern city.

moyashi · Aug 18, 2002, 00:38

hmmm, maybe the first time I saw it I was too much in tears to remember the very end ....

miyuki · Aug 20, 2002, 19:36

So did I and my friends.
I asked others, but no one remembered its end.

miyuki · Aug 20, 2002, 19:55

Scott is right.

I checked HPs whether if anyone would mention it....
I checked many...
Most of them sketched a plot
but only one person mentined its end.
She said Seita watched the modern city.

<And at the very end it was of the brother ( ghost or hallucination of our own...I guess) watching over the modern city.>

moyashi · Aug 22, 2002, 22:29

hmm ... my students today said both endings ... ughhhh ....

Olivia · Sep 9, 2002, 08:49

sugoi kanashii desu yone, kono anime...

I was 16 or 17 when I watched it, cried a lot...

don't remember the ending (what exactly happened), but the only thing I know is that he was holding that candy can...

Luxpyre · Oct 23, 2002, 08:02

I didn't quite cry. I was close. When I tried to tell a friend about it, the story seemed sad, but not worth crying over. The characterization was the best I have seen and I think this is what makes the ending so terribly sad. You just don't want any of it to happen to them, but it does.

moyashi · Oct 23, 2002, 08:31

"You just don't want any of it to happen to them, but it does." Nice way to put it!

Welcome and yoroshiku Luxpyre!

ChennehCis · Mar 27, 2003, 13:52

Seriously... Who didn't cry... IMO GOTF (Grave of the Fireflies) was the best tragedy that Stuid Ghibli made... And moyashi... Thanks for the info... I had no idea the view was from Rokko Mt! O_O

degpiexoxo · Mar 30, 2003, 01:18

i know what you mean, the first time i saw it i rented it and i swear i must have cried for at least an hour after the movie was over. it was so sad. i own it now, but i've still only watched it twice.
i remember the beginning w/ Seita in the train station, the time w/ their aunt, and in the shelter, but i can't think of anything after Setsuko dies, probably b/c i'm not even thinking about the movie anymore, just going over the "why?" of it in my head...
Grave of the Fireflies is one of the most incredible movies i have ever had the privilege of viewing.

alfred183 · Apr 5, 2003, 21:49

I cried a little the first time I saw it, but only for a second. Yeah, I was sad that whole day. War is like that. No matter what, people suffer from it...

noyhauser · Sep 9, 2003, 08:35

Funny I watched it for the first time last night... I think its the last Studio Ghibili film I have not watched. I knew what happened in the story before, so I was mentally prepared for it. I didn't cry, but It moved me... I think it had a bit of allegory for Japan during the war, with the children being too proud... But thats my view. .

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Aug 15, 2002, 00:25	#1
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	Hotaru no Haka -- Grave of the Fireflies Ok ... this anime was talked about in other threads but I thought I break it off on it's own. I just watched it again. I never thought I'd be brave enough to watch it again but I did. This was a different version. The ending was different. The brother was sitting on a bench over looking modern day Kobe. The version I saw before had him standing alone, half dead at a station. Ok, anyway the poll. Did you cry or not?

Aug 15, 2002, 00:39	#2
thomas Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Mar 14, 2002 Posts: 4,209	Yes, definitely, and I would cry again. Oh, I thought there's only one version. __________________ Remember what the dormouse said, feed your head, feed your head!

Aug 15, 2002, 04:30	#3
MHtrStevie Regular Member Join Date: Jul 13, 2002 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 291	I'm impressed, moyashi... I've debated whether or not I could watch "Grave of the Fireflies" again. A fantastic film, but a very emotional experience... And yes, I did cry... I think it still stands as the only anime that's ever overcome me emotionally. __________________ Mamono Hunter Stevie DJ, Radio 1/2 - WSPN 91.1 FM Sundays 6-9 AM EST

Apr 5, 2003, 21:49	#18
alfred183 Regular Member Join Date: Apr 5, 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 29 Posts: 43	I cried a little the first time I saw it, but only for a second. Yeah, I was sad that whole day. War is like that. No matter what, people suffer from it... __________________ rawr

Aug 16, 2002, 00:42	#4
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	My wife turned it on actually. I being the anime lover I let that part of me prevail. So folks which ending did you all see?

Aug 16, 2002, 23:05	#6
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	1.) Seita was at a station ??? standing next to a greyish pillar, hallucinating on the brink of death 2.) (the other night) Seita was sitting on a bench thinking of his sister or hallucinating. The view was of Kobe from Rokko Mountains in Ashiya. I got a box of those drops from a student, and I just can't open it. I keep remembering the movie.

Aug 16, 2002, 23:42	#7
thomas Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Mar 14, 2002 Posts: 4,209	I'll consult Miyuki-san, I am sure she can help...

Aug 17, 2002, 02:44	#8
Scott Regular Member Join Date: Jun 25, 2002 Location: USA Age: 21 Posts: 123	Odd..the version that I have, had the brother sitting at the station in the beginning with some dialogue like 'This is the day I died'. It showed him slowly dying and then meeting the ghost of his sister while they caught fireflies and took a ride on a train. After this is then started with the story of how this all happened. And at the very end it was of the brother watching over the modern city.

Aug 18, 2002, 00:38	#9
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	hmmm, maybe the first time I saw it I was too much in tears to remember the very end ....

Aug 20, 2002, 19:36	#10
miyuki Regular Member Join Date: Jul 9, 2002 Location: japan Posts: 205	So did I and my friends. I asked others, but no one remembered its end.

Aug 20, 2002, 19:55	#11
miyuki Regular Member Join Date: Jul 9, 2002 Location: japan Posts: 205	Scott is right. I checked HPs whether if anyone would mention it.... I checked many... Most of them sketched a plot but only one person mentined its end. She said Seita watched the modern city. <And at the very end it was of the brother ( ghost or hallucination of our own...I guess) watching over the modern city.>

Aug 22, 2002, 22:29	#12
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	hmm ... my students today said both endings ... ughhhh ....

Sep 9, 2002, 08:49	#13
Olivia Regular Member Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Location: Sao Paulo, Brazil Posts: 126	sugoi kanashii desu yone, kono anime... I was 16 or 17 when I watched it, cried a lot... don't remember the ending (what exactly happened), but the only thing I know is that he was holding that candy can...

Oct 23, 2002, 08:02	#14
Luxpyre Regular Member Join Date: Oct 22, 2002 Location: Oregon Age: 28 Posts: 46	I didn't quite cry. I was close. When I tried to tell a friend about it, the story seemed sad, but not worth crying over. The characterization was the best I have seen and I think this is what makes the ending so terribly sad. You just don't want any of it to happen to them, but it does.

Oct 23, 2002, 08:31	#15
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	"You just don't want any of it to happen to them, but it does." Nice way to put it! Welcome and yoroshiku Luxpyre!

Mar 27, 2003, 13:52	#16
ChennehCis Junior Member Join Date: Mar 27, 2003 Posts: 18	Seriously... Who didn't cry... IMO GOTF (Grave of the Fireflies) was the best tragedy that Stuid Ghibli made... And moyashi... Thanks for the info... I had no idea the view was from Rokko Mt! O_O

Mar 30, 2003, 01:18	#17
degpiexoxo Regular Member Join Date: Feb 18, 2003 Location: minnesota...;; Age: 22 Posts: 89	i know what you mean, the first time i saw it i rented it and i swear i must have cried for at least an hour after the movie was over. it was so sad. i own it now, but i've still only watched it twice. i remember the beginning w/ Seita in the train station, the time w/ their aunt, and in the shelter, but i can't think of anything after Setsuko dies, probably b/c i'm not even thinking about the movie anymore, just going over the "why?" of it in my head... Grave of the Fireflies is one of the most incredible movies i have ever had the privilege of viewing.

Sep 9, 2003, 08:35	#19
noyhauser Regular Member Join Date: Feb 20, 2003 Age: 28 Posts: 361	Funny I watched it for the first time last night... I think its the last Studio Ghibili film I have not watched. I knew what happened in the story before, so I was mentally prepared for it. I didn't cry, but It moved me... I think it had a bit of allegory for Japan during the war, with the children being too proud... But thats my view. .

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