Jurassic Park

thomas · Aug 21, 2002, 17:01

Reported by Vladivostok News, Aug. 15, 2002:

Japanese professor plans Pleistocene Park

"Jurassic Park was a work of fiction. Pleistocene Park, a home to revitalized mammoths, may become fact in as little as 20 years. A joint team of Japanese and Russian scientists arrived in the Siberian province of Yakutia on August 1 to excavate a number of creatures that have been extinct for millennia - including mammoths and woolly rhinoceros.

[...]

They plan to extract DNA from the remains, crossbreed the retrieved nucleus with the creatures' modern-day counterparts and return the resurrected dinosaurs to a vast "safari park" in northern Siberia."

=> http://vlad.tribnet.com/News/upd14.HTM

Twisted · Aug 21, 2002, 17:13

You could argue that we shouldn't play god, but i personally think this is too fascinating not to try.

thomas · Aug 21, 2002, 17:42

I agree with you on the moral aspects, but in the long run not even the cloning of human cells can be prevented (not by U.S. jurisdiction, not by the catholic church). Call it "fascination" or "progress"...

Twisted · Aug 21, 2002, 20:09

I'm not totally against the cloning of humans. Take, for instance, the cloning for donor purposes. You could essentially make a brainless clone of yourself, so when your heart, eyes or any other organs fail, you could have them replaced. Or what about people with a rare type of blood?

However, this technology is bound to fall into wrong hands, so we could well be finding some strange deformed creatures walking the planet or wake up some ancient desease that we can't control.

But that is "progress" and when you imagine the possibilities, i think it's a risk well worth taking.

thomas · Aug 21, 2002, 20:39

Well, a knife cuts bread, it also cuts throats. It's upon us to decide.

Maciamo · Aug 21, 2002, 21:25

Speaking of DNA manipulation and superhumans, does anybody watch the series "Dark Angel" on TV ? It has just started a few weeks ago in Japan.

Tragedy · Aug 21, 2002, 21:59

I think this project is very interesting. My only gripe is why waste money and time on mammoths and Rhinos? We still have Rhinos and mammoth-like creatures roaming the plains of Africa...ELEPHANTS. They should ressurect some other creature or create a new one altogether. I am an athiest (I don't believe in God) so I have no opinion on the 'playing God' argument.

Originally posted by Maciamo
Speaking of DNA manipulation and superhumans, does anybody watch the series "Dark Angel" on TV ? It has just started a few weeks ago in Japan.

Jessica Alba is one of the most beautiful women ever to exist.

moyashi · Aug 22, 2002, 23:29

People are meant to live only so long ... I want to live a long time especially to follow scientific advancements but ... this is a technology that really needs to thought about thoroughly through.

hmm, I want to be 25 again

and return to the thumb generation ;)

samuraitora · Aug 27, 2002, 05:40

I am only 27, almost 28, and when I am 50 or so, I may want to be young again but have you really thought about it. You will have the mentality of a 50 year old in the body of a 25 year old...How SWEEET, or is it. Your going to have to get used to your body all over again. Plus, you no longer fit into society the same way. There are new social ways for the 20 year olds, they are different from when you were 25. it could be interesting though.

Tragedy · Aug 27, 2002, 07:53

How do you do that? How do you still feel young? I envy you. I'm 23 and I feel really old. I dread my 24th birthday.

thomas · Aug 27, 2002, 08:16

Hey, I'm 33 and still feel like 16. No, make that 18...
;)

deborah gormley · Aug 27, 2002, 08:39

I'm also 33 and feel about 18-25,, I got the greatest compliment to-day, I was speaking to a lady who passes my home every-day on her way to work,, we chatted and I added to the conversation that I was 33, the lady I was speaking to was definately in her 20's, and too my amazement when I said my age she was shocked!! she beleived that I was also in my 20's, well that cheered me up alot, haha,, but it would be really nice to look in my 20's again because I was very slim and athletic, now at the age of 33 I can only look back on pictures, and say "well it was nice" the prospect of looking like that again, well what can I say!!!!! it would be a risk worth taking, the cloning aspect of this how-ever I have a problem with, there must be side effects and at some stage an ill fated sickness just like that cloned sheep? (cant remember its name) but I dont think we should play god!!

Tragedy · Aug 27, 2002, 09:50

I guess I just feel really old because I've been through so many hardships in such a short time. Not to judge any of you, but I've probably been through more hell than a lot of people almost twice my age. When I was 16, I felt I was 25. None of my schoolmates in my age group could understand me. I'm not saying none of you have been through hardships, but I guess I take them differently.

moyashi · Aug 27, 2002, 11:51

The group of 3 ... 3 33 year olds

@ tragedy
I don't know what to say but ... I hope that you can use those hardships to your benefit. They are valuable experiences and hopefully they were something that you could learn from.
<I've read about C.G. Jung's Synchronicity recently.>

@ feeling young.
It's really a mind set. IF you let life and others put you down you'll feel old. Even with hardships or not, it's how you feel that makes the difference. If you want to feel old you will.

I'm 33 and felt about 18 until recently ... now it's about 25.

@bodly vs societly ages
whoooo, good point there SamuraiTora. Being a Gaijin in Japan makes it easier to associate with different age groups and I can see what you're saying. Recently I find associating with my students on their level is getting harder and harder every year.

But, What about Conan -- the boy detective who was chemically aged back to about 10 ??? while his real self is 20ish? lol cartoons, don't you love em?

Twisted · Aug 27, 2002, 15:17

My girlfriend often tells me that men never grow up...

@ Tragedy:
Don't worry about how old you feel. Especially if you've already got a lot of other things to worry about.
Just bare in mind that mental aging can be reversed. Someday something might happen in your life that makes you feel 16 again, no matter how old you are in reality.

Ghost · Aug 13, 2004, 16:05

I think any chance to see a real live mammoth, or any thing else for that matter, would be great. Cloning means, any thing we destroy we can restore again.

Bounty Hunter · Aug 13, 2004, 17:46

Originally Posted by thomas

Reported by Vladivostok News, Aug. 15, 2002:

Japanese professor plans Pleistocene Park

"Jurassic Park was a work of fiction. Pleistocene Park, a home to revitalized mammoths, may become fact in as little as 20 years. A joint team of Japanese and Russian scientists arrived in the Siberian province of Yakutia on August 1 to excavate a number of creatures that have been extinct for millennia - including mammoths and woolly rhinoceros.

[...]

They plan to extract DNA from the remains, crossbreed the retrieved nucleus with the creatures' modern-day counterparts and return the resurrected dinosaurs to a vast "safari park" in northern Siberia."

=> http://vlad.tribnet.com/News/upd14.HTM

I knew this was going to happen TIME ago. and you people have just found out. I thought britain was the place where everything comes last but not in this case.

**lexico** · Mar 26, 2005, 03:20

Originally Posted by Bounty Hunter

I knew this was going to happen TIME ago. and you people have just found out. I thought britain was the place where everything comes last but not in this case.

Sorry to pop you bubble, Bounty Hunter. I had designed THE original plan in the 1970's mind you. Magna Britannia came later in this case. Still, second place is good. Let's drink to that when it becomes reality !

**Uncle Frank** · Mar 26, 2005, 03:51

Bounty Hunter was banned last year?

Frank

Aug 21, 2002, 17:01	#1
thomas Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Mar 14, 2002 Posts: 4,209	Jurassic Park Reported by Vladivostok News, Aug. 15, 2002: Japanese professor plans Pleistocene Park "Jurassic Park was a work of fiction. Pleistocene Park, a home to revitalized mammoths, may become fact in as little as 20 years. A joint team of Japanese and Russian scientists arrived in the Siberian province of Yakutia on August 1 to excavate a number of creatures that have been extinct for millennia - including mammoths and woolly rhinoceros. [...] They plan to extract DNA from the remains, crossbreed the retrieved nucleus with the creatures' modern-day counterparts and return the resurrected dinosaurs to a vast "safari park" in northern Siberia." => http://vlad.tribnet.com/News/upd14.HTM __________________ Remember what the dormouse said, feed your head, feed your head!

Aug 21, 2002, 17:13	#2
Twisted That man in the corner Join Date: Mar 15, 2002 Location: The Netherlands Age: 35 Posts: 1,456	You could argue that we shouldn't play god, but i personally think this is too fascinating not to try. __________________ ZenLog Earotic

Aug 21, 2002, 21:25	#6
Maciamo Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Jul 17, 2002 Location: Austrasia Posts: 6,647	Speaking of DNA manipulation and superhumans, does anybody watch the series "Dark Angel" on TV ? It has just started a few weeks ago in Japan. __________________ Over 100 destinations in the Japan Sightseeing Guide + detailed Tokyo Guide and Kyoto Guide Eupedia : Your Guide to Europe in English Read the "Maciamo FAQ" "What is the use of living, if it be not to strive for noble causes and to make this muddled world a better place for those who will live in it after we are gone?", Winston Churchill.

Aug 21, 2002, 21:59	#7
Tragedy Shinjuku Star Join Date: Aug 5, 2002 Location: Chiba Posts: 54	I think this project is very interesting. My only gripe is why waste money and time on mammoths and Rhinos? We still have Rhinos and mammoth-like creatures roaming the plains of Africa...ELEPHANTS. They should ressurect some other creature or create a new one altogether. I am an athiest (I don't believe in God) so I have no opinion on the 'playing God' argument. Originally posted by Maciamo Speaking of DNA manipulation and superhumans, does anybody watch the series "Dark Angel" on TV ? It has just started a few weeks ago in Japan. Jessica Alba is one of the most beautiful women ever to exist. Last edited by Tragedy; Aug 21, 2002 at 22:06.

Aug 22, 2002, 23:29	#8
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	People are meant to live only so long ... I want to live a long time especially to follow scientific advancements but ... this is a technology that really needs to thought about thoroughly through. hmm, I want to be 25 again and return to the thumb generation ;) __________________ crazy gonna crazy

Aug 21, 2002, 17:42	#3
thomas Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Mar 14, 2002 Posts: 4,209	I agree with you on the moral aspects, but in the long run not even the cloning of human cells can be prevented (not by U.S. jurisdiction, not by the catholic church). Call it "fascination" or "progress"...

Aug 21, 2002, 20:09	#4
Twisted That man in the corner Join Date: Mar 15, 2002 Location: The Netherlands Age: 35 Posts: 1,456	I'm not totally against the cloning of humans. Take, for instance, the cloning for donor purposes. You could essentially make a brainless clone of yourself, so when your heart, eyes or any other organs fail, you could have them replaced. Or what about people with a rare type of blood? However, this technology is bound to fall into wrong hands, so we could well be finding some strange deformed creatures walking the planet or wake up some ancient desease that we can't control. But that is "progress" and when you imagine the possibilities, i think it's a risk well worth taking.

Aug 21, 2002, 20:39	#5
thomas Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Mar 14, 2002 Posts: 4,209	Well, a knife cuts bread, it also cuts throats. It's upon us to decide.

Aug 27, 2002, 05:40	#9
samuraitora Regular Member Join Date: May 29, 2002 Location: Detroit MI Age: 35 Posts: 782	I am only 27, almost 28, and when I am 50 or so, I may want to be young again but have you really thought about it. You will have the mentality of a 50 year old in the body of a 25 year old...How SWEEET, or is it. Your going to have to get used to your body all over again. Plus, you no longer fit into society the same way. There are new social ways for the 20 year olds, they are different from when you were 25. it could be interesting though. __________________ ja mata samuraitora (^_-)/

Aug 27, 2002, 07:53	#10
Tragedy Shinjuku Star Join Date: Aug 5, 2002 Location: Chiba Posts: 54	How do you do that? How do you still feel young? I envy you. I'm 23 and I feel really old. I dread my 24th birthday.

Aug 27, 2002, 08:16	#11
thomas Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Mar 14, 2002 Posts: 4,209	Hey, I'm 33 and still feel like 16. No, make that 18... ;)

Aug 27, 2002, 08:39	#12
deborah gormley Regular Member Join Date: Apr 19, 2002 Location: Nr. Ireland. Age: 40 Posts: 829	I'm also 33 and feel about 18-25,, I got the greatest compliment to-day, I was speaking to a lady who passes my home every-day on her way to work,, we chatted and I added to the conversation that I was 33, the lady I was speaking to was definately in her 20's, and too my amazement when I said my age she was shocked!! she beleived that I was also in my 20's, well that cheered me up alot, haha,, but it would be really nice to look in my 20's again because I was very slim and athletic, now at the age of 33 I can only look back on pictures, and say "well it was nice" the prospect of looking like that again, well what can I say!!!!! it would be a risk worth taking, the cloning aspect of this how-ever I have a problem with, there must be side effects and at some stage an ill fated sickness just like that cloned sheep? (cant remember its name) but I dont think we should play god!! __________________ Debs

Aug 27, 2002, 09:50	#13
Tragedy Shinjuku Star Join Date: Aug 5, 2002 Location: Chiba Posts: 54	I guess I just feel really old because I've been through so many hardships in such a short time. Not to judge any of you, but I've probably been through more hell than a lot of people almost twice my age. When I was 16, I felt I was 25. None of my schoolmates in my age group could understand me. I'm not saying none of you have been through hardships, but I guess I take them differently.

Aug 27, 2002, 11:51	#14
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	The group of 3 ... 3 33 year olds @ tragedy I don't know what to say but ... I hope that you can use those hardships to your benefit. They are valuable experiences and hopefully they were something that you could learn from. <I've read about C.G. Jung's Synchronicity recently.> @ feeling young. It's really a mind set. IF you let life and others put you down you'll feel old. Even with hardships or not, it's how you feel that makes the difference. If you want to feel old you will. I'm 33 and felt about 18 until recently ... now it's about 25. @bodly vs societly ages whoooo, good point there SamuraiTora. Being a Gaijin in Japan makes it easier to associate with different age groups and I can see what you're saying. Recently I find associating with my students on their level is getting harder and harder every year. But, What about Conan -- the boy detective who was chemically aged back to about 10 ??? while his real self is 20ish? lol cartoons, don't you love em?

Aug 27, 2002, 15:17	#15
Twisted That man in the corner Join Date: Mar 15, 2002 Location: The Netherlands Age: 35 Posts: 1,456	My girlfriend often tells me that men never grow up... @ Tragedy: Don't worry about how old you feel. Especially if you've already got a lot of other things to worry about. Just bare in mind that mental aging can be reversed. Someday something might happen in your life that makes you feel 16 again, no matter how old you are in reality.

Aug 13, 2004, 16:05	#16
Ghost 'cuse I can! Join Date: Dec 13, 2003 Location: Charlie Mansons house. Age: 22 Posts: 129	I think any chance to see a real live mammoth, or any thing else for that matter, would be great. Cloning means, any thing we destroy we can restore again. __________________ Man does not know the answers. He is a slave to the questions. 3/2 of Americans can't do fractions.

Aug 13, 2004, 17:46	#17
Bounty Hunter Banned Join Date: May 29, 2004 Posts: 424	Originally Posted by thomas Reported by Vladivostok News, Aug. 15, 2002: Japanese professor plans Pleistocene Park "Jurassic Park was a work of fiction. Pleistocene Park, a home to revitalized mammoths, may become fact in as little as 20 years. A joint team of Japanese and Russian scientists arrived in the Siberian province of Yakutia on August 1 to excavate a number of creatures that have been extinct for millennia - including mammoths and woolly rhinoceros. [...] They plan to extract DNA from the remains, crossbreed the retrieved nucleus with the creatures' modern-day counterparts and return the resurrected dinosaurs to a vast "safari park" in northern Siberia." => http://vlad.tribnet.com/News/upd14.HTM I knew this was going to happen TIME ago. and you people have just found out. I thought britain was the place where everything comes last but not in this case.

Mar 26, 2005, 03:20	#18
lexico Chukchi Salmon Join Date: Dec 22, 2004 Location: Sunny South Korea Posts: 2,223	Originally Posted by Bounty Hunter I knew this was going to happen TIME ago. and you people have just found out. I thought britain was the place where everything comes last but not in this case. Sorry to pop you bubble, Bounty Hunter. I had designed THE original plan in the 1970's mind you. Magna Britannia came later in this case. Still, second place is good. Let's drink to that when it becomes reality ! __________________ Z: The fish in the water are happy. H: How do you know ? You're not fish. Z: How do you know I don't ? You're not me. H: True I am not you, and I cannot know. Likewise, I know you're not, therefore I know you don't. Z: You asked me how I knew implying you knew I knew. In fact I saw some fish, strolling down by the Hao River, all jolly and gay. --Zhuangzi Last edited by lexico; Mar 26, 2005 at 03:58.

Mar 26, 2005, 03:51	#19
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