Gaijin working in Japan?

Museigen · Jan 21, 2004, 14:05

Hey all...maybe you guys can advise me on what to do. I'll be in Japan for 2-3 months this summer in Nagano staying at a friends house. I'm an American citizen. What kinds of jobs are available without a work visa? Can you work with a tourist visa or visiting visa? How do you find under the table kinds of jobs over there? Can you teach English without a visa? I can speak a little Japanese..What you guys think?

nihonjintaylor · Jan 21, 2004, 16:54

hmm...

It just depends on connections... working under the table is usually better when you can speak really good japanese... since it's less of a hassel for the person that will be employing you.

As for getting a work visa... it's quite hard and more than likely you won't be able to get a job with any company for that short of time.

Then again it depends on your skills and who you know~

budd · Jan 22, 2004, 03:43

working in a bar? from what amer/jpn peeps have told me
but i've heard that it's treated rather harshly? with detention/deportation...
hopefully some of the esl will jump in with a few stories?

Museigen · Jan 22, 2004, 07:35

I see I see...I agree that having "connections" would extremely be helpfull....which I do not =\... Anything else doable?

SacredBlue · Jan 22, 2004, 07:41

English teaching...Of course...If you're doing it "under the table" so to speak I don't think it would matter if you knew how to teach or not, most people who would come to you wouldn't be coming to learn English, per say.

Wouldn't reccomend it though.

Museigen · Jan 22, 2004, 08:29

Originally posted by SacredBlue
English teaching...Of course...If you're doing it "under the table" so to speak I don't think it would matter if you knew how to teach or not, most people who would come to you wouldn't be coming to learn English, per say.

Wouldn't reccomend it though.

I agree....What do you mean by most people comming to me wouldn't be comming to learn English? You mean they just want to meet a gaijin?

budd · Jan 22, 2004, 11:37

in answer to the thread, try working holiday?
homes may have just been punning about the under the table thing? he'll probably clarify

Golgo_13 · Jan 22, 2004, 12:38

Americans are not issued "working holiday" visas because the U.S. Gov't won't reciprocate. So it's mostly for Aussies, New Zealanders, Canadian, and other non-U.S. English speakers.

To teach English, even short-term, you need a BA degree.

I assume you're a guy. You could try working a "Host" bar where women come to sit, drink, and chat with male hosts. A Gaijin stud might be a welcome addition to the staff. I've seen documentaries on these kinds of bars where women blow 100,000 Yen (about a grand) in one night. I have no idea why any woman would want to go to such a place (or a man to go to a hostess bar, for that matter). However, these bars exist only in larger cities. And furthermore, you'd be working under the table, i.e., illegally.

Museigen · Jan 22, 2004, 14:05

Yeah all true good info...Good looking out everone....Too bad I wasn't Canadian =\...

budd · Jan 23, 2004, 04:56

my bad! i have ignoring those flag thingies again

"because the U.S. Gov't won't reciprocate."
didn't know that! thanks for the info!

Museigen · Jan 23, 2004, 08:41

Any one worked without a visa in Japan? Theres gotta be somebody on this forum...

SacredBlue · Jan 23, 2004, 09:28

Try looking at the forums at Gaijin Pot

They're the type of people who would know about it.

Museigen · Jan 23, 2004, 09:53

Hey good looking out SacredBlue! 感謝しています！

budd · Jan 24, 2004, 05:37

yeah, that's a great suggestion!
i just ran a search over there with the word "deport" and came up with some good info
thanks for the link!

Jan 21, 2004, 14:05	#1
Museigen Junior Member Join Date: Jan 21, 2004 Location: Seattle Woot Woot!! Age: 26 Posts: 13	Gaijin working in Japan? Hey all...maybe you guys can advise me on what to do. I'll be in Japan for 2-3 months this summer in Nagano staying at a friends house. I'm an American citizen. What kinds of jobs are available without a work visa? Can you work with a tourist visa or visiting visa? How do you find under the table kinds of jobs over there? Can you teach English without a visa? I can speak a little Japanese..What you guys think? Last edited by Museigen; Jan 21, 2004 at 14:55.

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Museigen Junior Member Join Date: Jan 21, 2004 Location: Seattle Woot Woot!! Age: 26 Posts: 13	Originally posted by SacredBlue English teaching...Of course...If you're doing it "under the table" so to speak I don't think it would matter if you knew how to teach or not, most people who would come to you wouldn't be coming to learn English, per say. Wouldn't reccomend it though. I agree....What do you mean by most people comming to me wouldn't be comming to learn English? You mean they just want to meet a gaijin?

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Jan 22, 2004, 07:35	#4
Museigen Junior Member Join Date: Jan 21, 2004 Location: Seattle Woot Woot!! Age: 26 Posts: 13	I see I see...I agree that having "connections" would extremely be helpfull....which I do not =\... Anything else doable?

Jan 22, 2004, 07:41	#5
SacredBlue Regular Member Join Date: Oct 13, 2003 Location: Well..I put the asian in Caucasian. Just kiddin! I'm a white kid from freezing Massachusetts. Posts: 214	English teaching...Of course...If you're doing it "under the table" so to speak I don't think it would matter if you knew how to teach or not, most people who would come to you wouldn't be coming to learn English, per say. Wouldn't reccomend it though.

Jan 22, 2004, 11:37	#7
budd __________ Join Date: Jul 10, 2003 Posts: 1,972	in answer to the thread, try working holiday? homes may have just been punning about the under the table thing? he'll probably clarify

Jan 22, 2004, 12:38	#8
Golgo_13 Koushaku Join Date: Nov 27, 2003 Location: KIX -> JFK -> LAX Posts: 1,402	Americans are not issued "working holiday" visas because the U.S. Gov't won't reciprocate. So it's mostly for Aussies, New Zealanders, Canadian, and other non-U.S. English speakers. To teach English, even short-term, you need a BA degree. I assume you're a guy. You could try working a "Host" bar where women come to sit, drink, and chat with male hosts. A Gaijin stud might be a welcome addition to the staff. I've seen documentaries on these kinds of bars where women blow 100,000 Yen (about a grand) in one night. I have no idea why any woman would want to go to such a place (or a man to go to a hostess bar, for that matter). However, these bars exist only in larger cities. And furthermore, you'd be working under the table, i.e., illegally.

Jan 22, 2004, 14:05	#9
Museigen Junior Member Join Date: Jan 21, 2004 Location: Seattle Woot Woot!! Age: 26 Posts: 13	Yeah all true good info...Good looking out everone....Too bad I wasn't Canadian =\...

Jan 23, 2004, 04:56	#10
budd __________ Join Date: Jul 10, 2003 Posts: 1,972	my bad! i have ignoring those flag thingies again "because the U.S. Gov't won't reciprocate." didn't know that! thanks for the info!

Jan 23, 2004, 08:41	#11
Museigen Junior Member Join Date: Jan 21, 2004 Location: Seattle Woot Woot!! Age: 26 Posts: 13	Any one worked without a visa in Japan? Theres gotta be somebody on this forum...

Jan 23, 2004, 09:28	#12
SacredBlue Regular Member Join Date: Oct 13, 2003 Location: Well..I put the asian in Caucasian. Just kiddin! I'm a white kid from freezing Massachusetts. Posts: 214	Try looking at the forums at Gaijin Pot They're the type of people who would know about it.

Jan 23, 2004, 09:53	#13
Museigen Junior Member Join Date: Jan 21, 2004 Location: Seattle Woot Woot!! Age: 26 Posts: 13	Hey good looking out SacredBlue! 感謝しています！

Jan 24, 2004, 05:37	#14
budd __________ Join Date: Jul 10, 2003 Posts: 1,972	yeah, that's a great suggestion! i just ran a search over there with the word "deport" and came up with some good info thanks for the link!

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