Use of "charset=iso-8859-1" tag in _Japan_ Forum

PaulTB · Mar 9, 2004, 21:21

This is significant mostly to the 'Nihongo Forum' section.

Since the new forum system has come up and running (only just noticed it myself) the meta tag
<meta content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" http-equiv=Content-Type />
is included. I have noticed a significant increase in nasty moji-bake occurences in posts.

It seems to be (pretty much) impossible to select non-Western encodings when replying to threads in advanced mode. (Quick
replies are a different matter). Japanese characters entered while in Western Encoding in Internet Explorer appear to be stored and displayed correctly (in &#NNNNN; unicode form) but I'm concerned about how well this will work with other browsers.

これはIEでWestern European (ISO)のエンコードです。

PaulTB · Mar 9, 2004, 21:24

これはQuick ReplyでJapanese (JIS)のエンコードです。

PaulTB · Mar 9, 2004, 21:28

これはMozilla FirebirdでWestern (ISO-8895-1)のエンコードです。

PaulTB · Mar 10, 2004, 21:40

Note that smilies should be disabled when making posts including Japanese text. (Smilies are not '&#NNNN;' safe - the ; will be interpretted as part of a smiley if it happens to be before a ) etc.

PaulTB · Mar 11, 2004, 16:16

Having checked around a bit;
Japanese (JIS) also known as Japanese (ISO-2022-JP) may be the only format to be corrupted due to the presense of " < > & etc in the source text.
Japanese (Shift-JIS) and Japanese (EUC) should both be safe from that particular bug.

thomas · Mar 11, 2004, 18:25

Thanks for your heads-up, Paul. We will soon create new template sets for the nihongo sections featuring J-metatags. However, we're just a bit reluctant to tinker with the forum until the Gold release will be finally out.

PaulTB · Mar 15, 2004, 13:53

Originally Posted by thomas

Thanks for your heads-up, Paul. We will soon create new template sets for the nihongo sections featuring J-metatags. However, we're just a bit reluctant to tinker with the forum until the Gold release will be finally out.

I see they have now been tinkered with but didn't you read this (and other) threads?

Please don't use
<meta content="text/html; charset=iso-2022-jp" http-equiv=Content-Type />
unless/until you get the " damage sorted out. In fact use anything but iso-2022-jp.

As far as I know Japanese (EUC) and Japanese (Shift-JIS) should both be OK.

Mar 9, 2004, 21:21	#1
PaulTB Manga Psychic Join Date: Jan 22, 2004 Posts: 2,111	Use of "charset=iso-8859-1" tag in _Japan_ Forum This is significant mostly to the 'Nihongo Forum' section. Since the new forum system has come up and running (only just noticed it myself) the meta tag <meta content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" http-equiv=Content-Type /> is included. I have noticed a significant increase in nasty moji-bake occurences in posts. It seems to be (pretty much) impossible to select non-Western encodings when replying to threads in advanced mode. (Quick replies are a different matter). Japanese characters entered while in Western Encoding in Internet Explorer appear to be stored and displayed correctly (in &#NNNNN; unicode form) but I'm concerned about how well this will work with other browsers. これはIEでWestern European (ISO)のエンコードです。

Mar 11, 2004, 18:25	#6
thomas Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Mar 14, 2002 Posts: 4,209	Thanks for your heads-up, Paul. We will soon create new template sets for the nihongo sections featuring J-metatags. However, we're just a bit reluctant to tinker with the forum until the Gold release will be finally out. __________________ Remember what the dormouse said, feed your head, feed your head!

Mar 15, 2004, 13:53	#7
PaulTB Manga Psychic Join Date: Jan 22, 2004 Posts: 2,111	Originally Posted by thomas Thanks for your heads-up, Paul. We will soon create new template sets for the nihongo sections featuring J-metatags. However, we're just a bit reluctant to tinker with the forum until the Gold release will be finally out. I see they have now been tinkered with but didn't you read this (and other) threads? Please don't use <meta content="text/html; charset=iso-2022-jp" http-equiv=Content-Type /> unless/until you get the " damage sorted out. In fact use anything but iso-2022-jp. As far as I know Japanese (EUC) and Japanese (Shift-JIS) should both be OK.

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