Would Japan be better off without the US?

uci · Mar 23, 2004, 13:00

Would Japan be better off if it made a fundamental change in its postwar foreign policy? If Japan move from a "low-profile" approach to one that is more active and assertive, and lower its dependence on the US, would Japan and the rest of the world be better in terms of military, politically and economically?

Soviet Soldier · Mar 23, 2004, 13:04

lol... japan has a history of abusing other nations when they got a power of military and weapon technology such as guns. And if USA leaves japan and japan is allowed to build it's military, there would be 1,000 ICBM missiles aimed at Japan in south or north korea and not to mension China, China would already have a nukes aimed at Japan.

Mandylion · Mar 23, 2004, 13:15

Germany also had a past of military aggression. They seem to be doing okay last time I checked. It is quite silly to say a strong Japan is incapabale of being measured in its approach to military matters.

I do agree with Soviet Soldier that rearming could spark an arms race. But the US staying in the region could do the same thing if they get the missile defense thing up and running so who is to say?

Soviet Soldier · Mar 23, 2004, 13:25

the missile defense system you speak of is not half ready to be to be used as a matter of fact. Only the prototype has been built. And as for other missile defense systems such as American made Patriot missiles, is not enough to counter the more than 1,000 ICBM missiles flying on japan, by the way korea and japan is pretty damn close and when those missiles fired, it is less than 5 minutes when Japan getting hit by the missiles. And as for China, China already has nuclear ICBM cruise missiles installed in chinese submarines which is patrolling just off coast of north korea, close to japan shore.

Mandylion · Mar 23, 2004, 13:34

Just the concept/development of a missile defense shield is enough to cause nations to worry. If the system is functional it is too late.

I agree a saturation of missiles would not be stopped by a defense shield, but even if these 1,000s of ICBMs exist, and I haven't seen anythign to suggest they do (do you have a website or book I could check out?) why would NKorea or China fire them at Japan? The Bush administration is itching to do something, anything about N. Korea and China seems to be trying to become the next economic powerhouse in Asia. War is not a good foundation for an economy, and the US is not going to let the second largest economy in the world and one of its biggest trading partners just roll over and take it.

emperor · Apr 7, 2004, 11:34

In my opinion, Japan is too dependent to US, more alike US servant...
Japan seems dare not to says 'no' when dealing US in politic and economic arena... Nowaday, Japanese troop oversea sending (to Iraq) has scared almost whole East Asia Country, that been invaded at WW2, the sound of opposion of East Asia countries is getting louder, but Japanese government looks didn't care of it, relatively, more troops are trying to leave the island's coast... It clearly seems that the Japanese militarisme is resurrecting......WARNING!

Mar 23, 2004, 13:00	#1
uci Junior Member Join Date: Mar 23, 2004 Posts: 2	Would Japan be better off without the US? Would Japan be better off if it made a fundamental change in its postwar foreign policy? If Japan move from a "low-profile" approach to one that is more active and assertive, and lower its dependence on the US, would Japan and the rest of the world be better in terms of military, politically and economically?

Mar 23, 2004, 13:04	#2
Soviet Soldier Regular Member Join Date: Nov 6, 2003 Location: Korea the land of almighty arsenals Age: 24 Posts: 31	lol... japan has a history of abusing other nations when they got a power of military and weapon technology such as guns. And if USA leaves japan and japan is allowed to build it's military, there would be 1,000 ICBM missiles aimed at Japan in south or north korea and not to mension China, China would already have a nukes aimed at Japan. __________________ Don't mess with the korean soviets or die like a damn commie!!

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Mar 23, 2004, 13:15	#3
Mandylion Omnipotence personified Join Date: Mar 15, 2003 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,121	Germany also had a past of military aggression. They seem to be doing okay last time I checked. It is quite silly to say a strong Japan is incapabale of being measured in its approach to military matters. I do agree with Soviet Soldier that rearming could spark an arms race. But the US staying in the region could do the same thing if they get the missile defense thing up and running so who is to say?

Mar 23, 2004, 13:25	#4
Soviet Soldier Regular Member Join Date: Nov 6, 2003 Location: Korea the land of almighty arsenals Age: 24 Posts: 31	the missile defense system you speak of is not half ready to be to be used as a matter of fact. Only the prototype has been built. And as for other missile defense systems such as American made Patriot missiles, is not enough to counter the more than 1,000 ICBM missiles flying on japan, by the way korea and japan is pretty damn close and when those missiles fired, it is less than 5 minutes when Japan getting hit by the missiles. And as for China, China already has nuclear ICBM cruise missiles installed in chinese submarines which is patrolling just off coast of north korea, close to japan shore.

Mar 23, 2004, 13:34	#5
Mandylion Omnipotence personified Join Date: Mar 15, 2003 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,121	Just the concept/development of a missile defense shield is enough to cause nations to worry. If the system is functional it is too late. I agree a saturation of missiles would not be stopped by a defense shield, but even if these 1,000s of ICBMs exist, and I haven't seen anythign to suggest they do (do you have a website or book I could check out?) why would NKorea or China fire them at Japan? The Bush administration is itching to do something, anything about N. Korea and China seems to be trying to become the next economic powerhouse in Asia. War is not a good foundation for an economy, and the US is not going to let the second largest economy in the world and one of its biggest trading partners just roll over and take it.

Apr 7, 2004, 11:34	#6
emperor ~天 under の heaven 下~ Join Date: Apr 1, 2004 Location: Penang Age: 23 Posts: 76	In my opinion, Japan is too dependent to US, more alike US servant... Japan seems dare not to says 'no' when dealing US in politic and economic arena... Nowaday, Japanese troop oversea sending (to Iraq) has scared almost whole East Asia Country, that been invaded at WW2, the sound of opposion of East Asia countries is getting louder, but Japanese government looks didn't care of it, relatively, more troops are trying to leave the island's coast... It clearly seems that the Japanese militarisme is resurrecting......WARNING!