PS2, still the runner up...

Ulubatli · Apr 12, 2004, 22:54

Today, I bought a PS2, that's my first experince in PS world.

I played the games that came in the box. It was incredible, the graphical effects, light effects, waaaooow....

Then I had a feeling that Sony is dominating the technological world. Than I realized the small logo on the box 'PS2 All rights reserved 1999'. Oh my god, it is almost 5 years old but is still the runner up! What a technology...

God bless Japans...

(Sony should invest more to advertise in Turkey I think)

Ten'shi-no-Shippuu · Apr 12, 2004, 23:00

Personally I prefer the Nintendo Gamecube!!!

dreamer · Apr 12, 2004, 23:02

It is said that developpers still don't exploit 50% of the PS2 abilities ^^
I'm looking forward to see the games next years

Ulubatli · Apr 12, 2004, 23:27

i am quitting microelectronical engineering... what needs to be done is already done by sony...

**playaa** · Apr 13, 2004, 02:03

If only Sony's car audio skills and quality were the same as the rest of their product line ups I would be in heaven!!

Keiichi · Apr 13, 2004, 03:07

PS2 graphics were impressive, but I think it bites now. That, or game companies aren't putting enough efforts in making better graphics... I'm certain that PS2 is capable of more.

TKNY · Apr 16, 2004, 20:18

Sony has really gone downhill. they dont really work on the quality of the products. People think: Sony, it must be good, so they dont realize how bad it is. the playstation, and some of their pro equipment is still good though

Eternal Wind · Apr 27, 2004, 22:22

I am waiting for PS 3...can it win microsoft this time round?

ashuri2 · Jun 21, 2004, 14:43

the ps2 is my favorite console, i think. the graphics though, do not bie, i mean, prince of persia was one of the most beautiful games i've seenm though it does have some visual problems...

Lina Inverse · Jun 27, 2004, 02:33

The PS2 graphics is clearly behind the GameCube and Xbox who have much better abilities in that area

They were really good when the PS2 came out, but look quite dated now.

**cacawate** · Jul 9, 2004, 08:11

Originally Posted by TKNY

Sony has really gone downhill. they dont really work on the quality of the products. People think: Sony, it must be good, so they dont realize how bad it is. the playstation, and some of their pro equipment is still good though

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news03/playstation.html

mdchachi · Jul 9, 2004, 08:21

If anybody has a Japanese copy of Def Jam Vendetta for PS2 that they want to get rid of, let me know. Domo.

Arch · Jul 9, 2004, 19:39

xbox has defo got to be the best at moment. PS2 is very outdated compared to the cube and xbox.

wonder how PS3 is goona compare.

EscaFlowne · Jul 9, 2004, 23:15

To a certain degree I think this. I use to hate X-box but now i'm intrigued by it graphics and gameplay. Even the controller is appealing to me more--[not the basic but like the mad catz i think its called or something along the lines] The games are getting better too. PS3 should bring them back up the totem pole.

Currently own:
A gamecube
PS2
and thinking hard about getting a X-box.

Knives · Jul 10, 2004, 02:03

the ps2's graphics are ok even on prince of persia they were great but it slowed down alot unlike the xbox version. Also what can you say when there are amazing graphical games on xbox like ninja gaiden or halo? dont get me wrong i love my ps2 and it has alot of good games but i think that xbox has dominated the video game industry right now. Who knows what the Ps3 or Xbox 2 might bring heck Nintendo might even kick all there butts with there new system code named discovery

Wang · Jul 10, 2004, 03:33

The Playstation 2 came out in October 2000. While the Gamecube hit the market in November of 2001 and the Xbox came out in Nov. 15, 2001. So you see here that the Playstation 2 came out much earlier then the other 2 consoles so it's absolutely no wonder that the Playstation 2 graphics are less good then that of the other consoles.

I have a Nintendo Gamecube. The Gamecube graphics are quite on the same level as that with the Xbox.

I don't like the Xbox because the console size is too large, also I think Microsoft already dominates too much of the computer industry and imo the Xbox is just a PC in disguise. By the way there are more Gamecubes sold then Xboxes haha.

Here are the total console sales worldwide until about Sept. 21, 2003.

Console: North America: Japan: Europe and others: Total:
PlayStation 2 19,000,000 14,170,000 19,400,000 59,990,000
GBA 14,540,000 9,240,000 7,920,000 31,700,000
GBA-SP 2,300,000 820,000 460,000 2,110,000
GameCube 4,600,000 2,470,000 1,950,000 9,550,000
Xbox 5,800,000 400,000 2,200,000 9,400,000

http://archive.gamespy.com/icfj/september03/import7/

The Gamecube doesn't have many trashy games, instead it has mostly good quality games and some legendary games such as Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes, F-Zero GX, Soul Calibur 2, The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, Metroid Prime, Viewtiful Joe and more.

Also some top games that will come out in the near future for the Gamecube are: Viewtiful Joe 2, Killer 7, Metroid Prime 2: Echoes, Pikmin 2, Starcraft: Ghost, Resident Evil 4, Tales of Symphonia, Paper Mario 2 and ofcourse the new Legend of Zelda.

So overal I think the Gamecube is the coolest, because it's not a big oversized console. It has a nice design and size. There are plenty of top games for the Gamecube available. It's also the cheapest console of all 3. And the graphics are about the same quality as that of the XGates.

So if you want a good console with top quality games for a good price then I say go buy the Nintendo Gamecube.

Knives · Jul 10, 2004, 12:14

2 of the games you listed btw are coming to the ps2

but indeed you do make a good point i do also have gamecube and it does have the good classic originals :P

Shinpachi · Jul 12, 2004, 10:25

About that consumer affairs article, I KNEW IT!!! I knew that my 1st generation PS2 wasn't the only one degenerating, granted mine didn't do it in 3 months like the one they mentioned (that's just bad upkeep I'm sure), but the same happened with my PSX and is now happening with my friend's 2nd or 3rd generation PS2. I'll just say that my NES, SNES, N64, and original GameBoy all still work as well as the day I got them (though that's probly due to them being cartridge systems, but still).

To whoever said Xbox's are PC's in disguise, you're right, except they're restricted internally so you have to buy a $60 mod-chip to make it work more like a PC (accepting software mainly). I heard the Xbox2 is going to be even more similar to a PC though, too bad it's only going to run on Windows

Edit: And you forgot to mention Super Smash Bros Melee!! I've never played any fighting game that could hold a candle to that.

Porl · Jul 14, 2004, 00:37

Originally Posted by Wang

The Playstation 2 came out in October 2000. While the Gamecube hit the market in November of 2001 and the Xbox came out in Nov. 15, 2001. So you see here that the Playstation 2 came out much earlier then the other 2 consoles so it's absolutely no wonder that the Playstation 2 graphics are less good then that of the other consoles.

Im so glad someone else made this comment. This is the main thing most people forget when they are comparing graphics and console power. The newer console will without a doubt have more up to date technology in it. New graphics cards that can process effects that the year older console wont be able to do. Sometimes it seems pointless even comparing consoles because of graphics and system specs. It is always impressive seeing how much developers can squeeze out of the consoles. Because it is a fixed platform where they only have to program to one set of specifications they can pull out the stops and push and work around the limits of the consoles technology without having to worry about someone buying the game and it not working with a certain soundcard/graphics card/processor etc. This is why it is normally better to stick with a console for more than 2 years because the developers have got the hang of the developing units, found out what they can and cant do and start bringing out amazing games.

i think i have just made a load of rambling nonsense.. but hey..

squallleonheart · Jul 14, 2004, 11:55

the PS2 is best in my opinion... The way it's been, and with the PS3 and PSP coming out.. I can't wait to see a new set of games that are sure to help bring it to the top of the pyramid

willuknight · Oct 15, 2004, 09:05

I love Nintendo.. Games like Mario Kart, Super Smash Bros and Super Monkey Ball are awsome.... and who can forget Mario Party...

About the only game i like on PS is Crash Team Raching, and thats a clone of Mario Kart

MWThomas · Nov 29, 2004, 19:10

Is there any word on how powerful the PS3 will be?

Apollo · Nov 29, 2004, 21:01

I have a PS2---I don't know why it wasn't an X-box or GameCube...I just think I went for SONY because everything in my apartment is SONY..

Nah, kidding, it was because my friends all have a PS2.

I am looking forward to the PS3 too...where has it come out?

TwistedMac · Nov 30, 2004, 01:40

Originally Posted by Shinpachi

I heard the Xbox2 is going to be even more similar to a PC though, too bad it's only going to run on Windows

there'll be 3 versions of xbox2. One of them will basically be a PC

calsonic · Feb 21, 2005, 14:58

I wonder if they will keep the prices under 300.

Apr 12, 2004, 22:54	#1
Ulubatli Believer Join Date: Apr 9, 2004 Location: Turkey / Turkish Age: 26 Posts: 23	PS2, still the runner up... Today, I bought a PS2, that's my first experince in PS world. I played the games that came in the box. It was incredible, the graphical effects, light effects, waaaooow.... Then I had a feeling that Sony is dominating the technological world. Than I realized the small logo on the box 'PS2 All rights reserved 1999'. Oh my god, it is almost 5 years old but is still the runner up! What a technology... God bless Japans... (Sony should invest more to advertise in Turkey I think)

Apr 12, 2004, 23:00	#2
Ten'shi-no-Shippuu Tenshi Join Date: Apr 1, 2004 Location: Switzerland/in the clouds Age: 23 Posts: 200	Well... Personally I prefer the Nintendo Gamecube!!! __________________ Make that the dream devours your life so that the life does not devour your dream. 下手の横好き Heta no yoko zuki My blog where I will post drawings(french)

Apr 12, 2004, 23:02	#3
dreamer Traveler of eternity Join Date: Aug 15, 2003 Location: Tokyo/Asakusa Age: 26 Posts: 1,825	It is said that developpers still don't exploit 50% of the PS2 abilities ^^ I'm looking forward to see the games next years __________________ One of the most adventurous things left for us is to go to bed. For no one can lay a hand on our dreams....

Apr 13, 2004, 02:03	#5
playaa Dog Youkai Join Date: Jan 15, 2004 Location: Clovis, CA Age: 25 Posts: 774	If only Sony's car audio skills and quality were the same as the rest of their product line ups I would be in heaven!! __________________ "Kanpeki to chau, jinsei no shuushi Puramai zero da nanteba honto ka na? Shinu made ni tsukaikiru, un no kazu Semete, jibun de dashiire wo sasete "

Apr 13, 2004, 03:07	#6
Keiichi Hi Join Date: Mar 9, 2003 Posts: 818	PS2 graphics were impressive, but I think it bites now. That, or game companies aren't putting enough efforts in making better graphics... I'm certain that PS2 is capable of more. __________________ K1

Apr 12, 2004, 23:27	#4
Ulubatli Believer Join Date: Apr 9, 2004 Location: Turkey / Turkish Age: 26 Posts: 23	i am quitting microelectronical engineering... what needs to be done is already done by sony...

Apr 16, 2004, 20:18	#7
TKNY I'm smarterer!!!! Join Date: Apr 16, 2004 Location: NYC Age: 19 Posts: 39	Sony has really gone downhill. they dont really work on the quality of the products. People think: Sony, it must be good, so they dont realize how bad it is. the playstation, and some of their pro equipment is still good though __________________

Apr 27, 2004, 22:22	#8
Eternal Wind 聖天使 Join Date: Jan 30, 2004 Location: Singapore Age: 26 Posts: 663	I am waiting for PS 3...can it win microsoft this time round?

Jun 21, 2004, 14:43	#9
ashuri2 me gots isshooz... Join Date: Mar 28, 2004 Location: in my room. i live as little as possible.... Age: 22 Posts: 367	the ps2 is my favorite console, i think. the graphics though, do not bie, i mean, prince of persia was one of the most beautiful games i've seenm though it does have some visual problems...

Jun 27, 2004, 02:33	#10
Lina Inverse Hentai Koutaishi Join Date: Apr 29, 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 1,141	The PS2 graphics is clearly behind the GameCube and Xbox who have much better abilities in that area They were really good when the PS2 came out, but look quite dated now. __________________ Try out the new style!

Jul 9, 2004, 08:11	#11
cacawate 観察するのが好きです Join Date: Jul 22, 2003 Location: マングリ島 Age: 28 Posts: 533	Originally Posted by TKNY Sony has really gone downhill. they dont really work on the quality of the products. People think: Sony, it must be good, so they dont realize how bad it is. the playstation, and some of their pro equipment is still good though http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news03/playstation.html __________________ Cacawate Fan Club:Idol My Lang-8 ・ What is Lang-8?

Jul 9, 2004, 08:21	#12
mdchachi Taicho Join Date: Mar 6, 2003 Location: USA (Detroit area) Posts: 687	If anybody has a Japanese copy of Def Jam Vendetta for PS2 that they want to get rid of, let me know. Domo.

Jul 9, 2004, 19:39	#13
Arch Recall Join Date: Jul 28, 2003 Location: Germany Age: 22 Posts: 447	xbox has defo got to be the best at moment. PS2 is very outdated compared to the cube and xbox. wonder how PS3 is goona compare.

Jul 9, 2004, 23:15	#14
EscaFlowne Co-owner: Jovesca Records Join Date: Nov 14, 2003 Location: Orgi. Born in Ceiba,Puerto Rico, now live in orlando,Fl Age: 25 Posts: 1,438	To a certain degree I think this. I use to hate X-box but now i'm intrigued by it graphics and gameplay. Even the controller is appealing to me more--[not the basic but like the mad catz i think its called or something along the lines] The games are getting better too. PS3 should bring them back up the totem pole. Currently own: A gamecube PS2 and thinking hard about getting a X-box. __________________ "An insincere and evil friend is more to be feared than a wild beast; a wild beast may wound your body, but an evil friend will wound your mind." ~ Buddha "I am clever because I know the cause of my ignorance..." ~ Bruce Lee Cacawate Fan Club: President "Personal" Assitant

Jul 10, 2004, 02:03	#15
Knives ZZzzzzz... Join Date: Jul 2, 2004 Age: 22 Posts: 266	the ps2's graphics are ok even on prince of persia they were great but it slowed down alot unlike the xbox version. Also what can you say when there are amazing graphical games on xbox like ninja gaiden or halo? dont get me wrong i love my ps2 and it has alot of good games but i think that xbox has dominated the video game industry right now. Who knows what the Ps3 or Xbox 2 might bring heck Nintendo might even kick all there butts with there new system code named discovery

Jul 10, 2004, 03:33	#16
Wang Regular Member Join Date: Apr 21, 2004 Location: Originally from Taiwan Posts: 324	The Playstation 2 came out in October 2000. While the Gamecube hit the market in November of 2001 and the Xbox came out in Nov. 15, 2001. So you see here that the Playstation 2 came out much earlier then the other 2 consoles so it's absolutely no wonder that the Playstation 2 graphics are less good then that of the other consoles. I have a Nintendo Gamecube. The Gamecube graphics are quite on the same level as that with the Xbox. I don't like the Xbox because the console size is too large, also I think Microsoft already dominates too much of the computer industry and imo the Xbox is just a PC in disguise. By the way there are more Gamecubes sold then Xboxes haha. Here are the total console sales worldwide until about Sept. 21, 2003. Console: North America: Japan: Europe and others: Total: PlayStation 2 19,000,000 14,170,000 19,400,000 59,990,000 GBA 14,540,000 9,240,000 7,920,000 31,700,000 GBA-SP 2,300,000 820,000 460,000 2,110,000 GameCube 4,600,000 2,470,000 1,950,000 9,550,000 Xbox 5,800,000 400,000 2,200,000 9,400,000 http://archive.gamespy.com/icfj/september03/import7/ The Gamecube doesn't have many trashy games, instead it has mostly good quality games and some legendary games such as Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes, F-Zero GX, Soul Calibur 2, The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, Metroid Prime, Viewtiful Joe and more. Also some top games that will come out in the near future for the Gamecube are: Viewtiful Joe 2, Killer 7, Metroid Prime 2: Echoes, Pikmin 2, Starcraft: Ghost, Resident Evil 4, Tales of Symphonia, Paper Mario 2 and ofcourse the new Legend of Zelda. So overal I think the Gamecube is the coolest, because it's not a big oversized console. It has a nice design and size. There are plenty of top games for the Gamecube available. It's also the cheapest console of all 3. And the graphics are about the same quality as that of the XGates. So if you want a good console with top quality games for a good price then I say go buy the Nintendo Gamecube.

Jul 10, 2004, 12:14	#17
Knives ZZzzzzz... Join Date: Jul 2, 2004 Age: 22 Posts: 266	2 of the games you listed btw are coming to the ps2 but indeed you do make a good point i do also have gamecube and it does have the good classic originals :P

Jul 12, 2004, 10:25	#18
Shinpachi Resisting Otaku Join Date: Jun 13, 2004 Location: Oregon Age: 25 Posts: 27	About that consumer affairs article, I KNEW IT!!! I knew that my 1st generation PS2 wasn't the only one degenerating, granted mine didn't do it in 3 months like the one they mentioned (that's just bad upkeep I'm sure), but the same happened with my PSX and is now happening with my friend's 2nd or 3rd generation PS2. I'll just say that my NES, SNES, N64, and original GameBoy all still work as well as the day I got them (though that's probly due to them being cartridge systems, but still). To whoever said Xbox's are PC's in disguise, you're right, except they're restricted internally so you have to buy a $60 mod-chip to make it work more like a PC (accepting software mainly). I heard the Xbox2 is going to be even more similar to a PC though, too bad it's only going to run on Windows Edit: And you forgot to mention Super Smash Bros Melee!! I've never played any fighting game that could hold a candle to that. __________________ Speak softly and carry a big stick

Jul 14, 2004, 00:37	#19
Porl Monkey Shogun Join Date: Nov 19, 2003 Location: England Age: 30 Posts: 268	Originally Posted by Wang The Playstation 2 came out in October 2000. While the Gamecube hit the market in November of 2001 and the Xbox came out in Nov. 15, 2001. So you see here that the Playstation 2 came out much earlier then the other 2 consoles so it's absolutely no wonder that the Playstation 2 graphics are less good then that of the other consoles. Im so glad someone else made this comment. This is the main thing most people forget when they are comparing graphics and console power. The newer console will without a doubt have more up to date technology in it. New graphics cards that can process effects that the year older console wont be able to do. Sometimes it seems pointless even comparing consoles because of graphics and system specs. It is always impressive seeing how much developers can squeeze out of the consoles. Because it is a fixed platform where they only have to program to one set of specifications they can pull out the stops and push and work around the limits of the consoles technology without having to worry about someone buying the game and it not working with a certain soundcard/graphics card/processor etc. This is why it is normally better to stick with a console for more than 2 years because the developers have got the hang of the developing units, found out what they can and cant do and start bringing out amazing games. i think i have just made a load of rambling nonsense.. but hey..

Jul 14, 2004, 11:55	#20
squallleonheart just bring it Join Date: Jul 13, 2004 Location: balamb garden Age: 21 Posts: 86	the PS2 is best in my opinion... The way it's been, and with the PS3 and PSP coming out.. I can't wait to see a new set of games that are sure to help bring it to the top of the pyramid __________________ Whenever you search in the wind for that glimpse of your memory... I'll be there....

Oct 15, 2004, 09:05	#21
willuknight Regular Member Join Date: Jun 16, 2004 Location: Southland Age: 24 Posts: 36	I love Nintendo.. Games like Mario Kart, Super Smash Bros and Super Monkey Ball are awsome.... and who can forget Mario Party... About the only game i like on PS is Crash Team Raching, and thats a clone of Mario Kart

Nov 29, 2004, 19:10	#22
MWThomas Regular Member Join Date: Nov 29, 2004 Age: 23 Posts: 62	Is there any word on how powerful the PS3 will be?

Nov 29, 2004, 21:01	#23
Apollo Cat lover Join Date: Mar 28, 2004 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Age: 30 Posts: 1,593	I have a PS2---I don't know why it wasn't an X-box or GameCube...I just think I went for SONY because everything in my apartment is SONY.. Nah, kidding, it was because my friends all have a PS2. I am looking forward to the PS3 too...where has it come out? __________________

Nov 30, 2004, 01:40	#24
TwistedMac 夜露死苦! Join Date: Mar 4, 2004 Location: orz.eu Age: 27 Posts: 2,044	Originally Posted by Shinpachi I heard the Xbox2 is going to be even more similar to a PC though, too bad it's only going to run on Windows there'll be 3 versions of xbox2. One of them will basically be a PC __________________ 夜露死苦! www.orz.eu I find affence at your post as I ware eyeglass and have lmited site. Sankyuu~! http://japan.orz.eu - A site for my trip to Japan.

Feb 21, 2005, 14:58	#25
calsonic Regular Member Join Date: Feb 21, 2005 Posts: 19	I wonder if they will keep the prices under 300.

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