Meaning/explanation of some kanji

Vinylhoer · Apr 15, 2004, 19:29

I was trying to translate some of the kanji that was posted in this post:
http://www.jref.com/forum/showpost.p...2&postcount=10

In the first sentence I saw these kanji: 事実無根
Babelfish gave the meaning 'Factual non root'. That didn't mean anything to me so then I decided to look up the individual Kanji en thought maybe a better explanation of 事実無根 would be 'rumour' (事実 = fact, 無根 = without root/source?? --> a fact without a source = rumour).

I'm I thinking the right way here or am I wrong?

-edit- url to post and should learn to use cut and paste better

-edit-

PaulTB · Apr 15, 2004, 19:51

Originally Posted by Vinylhoer

I was trying to translate some of the kanji that was posted in this thread:
http://www.jref.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8083

In the first sentence I saw these kanji: 事実事実

Um, those kanji aren't in that thread.

Originally Posted by Vinylhoer

Babelfish gave the meaning 'Factual non root'.

You don't want to use Babelfish to translate words.

Originally Posted by Vinylhoer

That didn't mean anything to me so then I decided to look up the individual Kanji en thought maybe a better explanation of 事実無根

Different kanji that time round.

Originally Posted by Vinylhoer

would be 'rumour' (事実 = fact, 事実

Er, 無根.

Originally Posted by Vinylhoer

= without root/source?? --> a fact without a source = rumour).

Pretty good - ignoring the bit where you keep mixing up 無根 and 事実 :-P

WWWJDIC says
事実無根【じじつむこん】 (n) groundless; entirely contrary to fact; (P)

Vinylhoer · Apr 15, 2004, 20:42

Next time I'll wake up first before I post questions like this

And I know I shouldn't use babelfish, but I didn't have anything else and I thought it made sense. Kanji dictionary is on it's way to me right now

My dictionary uses 噂 for rumour. Does that have a different meaning then 事実無根?

PaulTB · Apr 15, 2004, 20:48

Originally Posted by Vinylhoer

My dictionary uses 噂 for rumour. Does that have a different meaning then 事実無根?

Sure, a rumour may or may not have some truth to it - but 事実無根 is an assertion that there is no basis to some position / story.

Apr 15, 2004, 19:29	#1
Vinylhoer Knightmare Join Date: Mar 29, 2004 Location: Rotterdam area Age: 32 Posts: 62	Meaning/explanation of some kanji I was trying to translate some of the kanji that was posted in this post: http://www.jref.com/forum/showpost.p...2&postcount=10 In the first sentence I saw these kanji: 事実無根 Babelfish gave the meaning 'Factual non root'. That didn't mean anything to me so then I decided to look up the individual Kanji en thought maybe a better explanation of 事実無根 would be 'rumour' (事実 = fact, 無根 = without root/source?? --> a fact without a source = rumour). I'm I thinking the right way here or am I wrong? -edit- url to post and should learn to use cut and paste better -edit- Last edited by Vinylhoer; Apr 15, 2004 at 20:34.

Apr 15, 2004, 19:51	#2
PaulTB Manga Psychic Join Date: Jan 22, 2004 Posts: 2,111	Originally Posted by Vinylhoer I was trying to translate some of the kanji that was posted in this thread: http://www.jref.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8083 In the first sentence I saw these kanji: 事実事実 Um, those kanji aren't in that thread. Originally Posted by Vinylhoer Babelfish gave the meaning 'Factual non root'. You don't want to use Babelfish to translate words. Originally Posted by Vinylhoer That didn't mean anything to me so then I decided to look up the individual Kanji en thought maybe a better explanation of 事実無根 Different kanji that time round. Originally Posted by Vinylhoer would be 'rumour' (事実 = fact, 事実 Er, 無根. Originally Posted by Vinylhoer = without root/source?? --> a fact without a source = rumour). Pretty good - ignoring the bit where you keep mixing up 無根 and 事実 :-P WWWJDIC says 事実無根【じじつむこん】 (n) groundless; entirely contrary to fact; (P)

Apr 15, 2004, 20:48	#4
PaulTB Manga Psychic Join Date: Jan 22, 2004 Posts: 2,111	Originally Posted by Vinylhoer My dictionary uses 噂 for rumour. Does that have a different meaning then 事実無根? Sure, a rumour may or may not have some truth to it - but 事実無根 is an assertion that there is no basis to some position / story.

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Apr 15, 2004, 20:42	#3
Vinylhoer Knightmare Join Date: Mar 29, 2004 Location: Rotterdam area Age: 32 Posts: 62	Next time I'll wake up first before I post questions like this And I know I shouldn't use babelfish, but I didn't have anything else and I thought it made sense. Kanji dictionary is on it's way to me right now My dictionary uses 噂 for rumour. Does that have a different meaning then 事実無根?