i think it's safe to say...

TwistedMac · Apr 26, 2004, 22:40

those adds you've stuffed into the middle of every thread are goddamn eye-soars.. just mentioning it.. they're ugly as dog**** and they crack the threads in odd places, disrupting the flow.

-just my 2 sen

fixelbrumpf · Apr 27, 2004, 02:22

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Yeah, man, I totally agree with you. I mean, it's not like those "soaring" ads keep the site running or anything.

Oh, shoot, forgot to log in. Could someone get rid of the above post, please?

kirei_na_me · Apr 27, 2004, 02:41

Originally Posted by fixelbrumpf

Oh, shoot, forgot to log in. Could someone get rid of the above post, please?

Sure thing.

PaulTB · Apr 27, 2004, 03:16

I'm not fussy about ads. Heck I read http://www.fanfiction.net/ and that has pop-up ads one of which has three pop-up dialog boxes as it tries to get you to
- register as trusted
- run an exe
- change your mind when you try to exit it.
(Unsurprisingly I tracked down the domain name of that ad and added it to the 'restricted' sites list).

I do, however, agree that the ads in their present form are pretty ugly. As small a change as
a) Removing the gap before 'n' after.
and
b) Fit to width of thread
would be a big improvement.

Incidently when I viewed this thread in Mozilla Firefox the ad completely failed to display.

**jeisan** · Apr 27, 2004, 03:47

or just setting them after, instead of before, the last post so its not inbetween...

some threads, like this one, dont have ads. i can see others in firefox just fine, unless of course the pic didnt load then i dont even get the box with the red x.

PaulTB · Apr 27, 2004, 04:00

Originally Posted by jeisan

or just setting them after, instead of before, the last post so its not inbetween...

some threads, like this one, dont have ads.

Er it does. If you view it in Internet Explorer. And no, it still doesn't if I view it with Firefox.

Originally Posted by jeisan

i can see others in firefox just fine, unless of course the pic didnt load

There is no pic in Google ads - that's the beauty of them. (As much as any ad can be said to have beauty

I've just checked out four other threads at random and none of them had ads showing up in Firefox - although all of them (longer than one post) had a clear but small gap where the ad would have been inserted.

bossel · Apr 27, 2004, 07:54

Hmm, using Mozilla (though not Firefox) I can see the ads, same width as the thread. Wonder, why. Maybe next time I download a new version, I should go for Firefox.

**jeisan** · Apr 27, 2004, 09:37

Originally Posted by PualTB

Er it does. If you view it in Internet Explorer. And no, it still doesn't if I view it with Firefox.

there are no ads in this thread in IE6 or firefox 0.8
like i said before not all threads have ads.
if you want to see an ad, check this thread, above the last post.
http://www.jref.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8252&page=2
i can see that ad, using the newest version of firefox 0.8, maybe you have a different version or havent been looking at the right threads.

although all of them (longer than one post) had a clear but small gap where the ad would have been inserted.

that gap has always been there...

PaulTB · Apr 27, 2004, 10:36

Originally Posted by jeisan

there are no ads in this thread in IE6 or firefox 0.8
like i said before not all threads have ads.

And like I said before 'Yes it does'.

Give me an email and I'll send you the screen shot.

if you want to see an ad, check this thread, above the last post.
http://www.jref.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8252&page=2
i can see that ad, using the newest version of firefox 0.8, maybe you have a different version or havent been looking at the right threads

Firefox 0.8 : No ad. And that's no ad in the source code as well as the display. And no I don't have any anti-ad SW running.
Internet Explorer : Ad.

**playaa** · Apr 27, 2004, 12:06

I see any ad right above PaulTB's post. Agreed the ad's suck.. but they do keep the site running. So its wall welcome..

Apr 27, 2004, 13:49

PaulTB, my guess is that you have javascript disabled in Firefox as the ads seem to be Javascript-based.

PaulTB · Apr 27, 2004, 15:06

Originally Posted by Unregistered

PaulTB, my guess is that you have javascript disabled in Firefox as the ads seem to be Javascript-based.

Good guess.

Actually I thought of that while I was falling asleep last night and I was just about to check it when I saw your post.

I've got one of those Firefox mods that allows me to put the 'Javascript [ ]' right on the toolbar - very convenient.

**jeisan** · Apr 27, 2004, 15:12

lol paul if you and playaa see it, ill agree that it's there, but not on my screen in either IE or firefox. so some people see them one one thread some people see them in another. which would be the cause of this confusion.

dreamer · Apr 27, 2004, 16:17

Hum...I still have the problem with either IE or firefox....

**Jean-Francois** · Apr 28, 2004, 04:40

Ironically, the "ugly location" of these ads makes us aware of their existence. To be honest, if they blend perfectly into the background or look just as beautiful as just another banner, I wouldn't even notice them, not to mention give them a click.

Actually, marketing people in the world still have a hard time evaluating the effectiveness of advertisements. But for the advertisers/sponsors, it's the click that matters.

PaulTB · Apr 28, 2004, 15:08

Originally Posted by Jean-Francois

Ironically, the "ugly location" of these ads makes us aware of their existence. To be honest, if they blend perfectly into the background or look just as beautiful as just another banner, I wouldn't even notice them, not to mention give them a click.

Sure I notice their existance, but the last ad I clicked was somebody looking for their stolen gnome from about a year ago.

Maciamo · Apr 28, 2004, 16:49

If you don't like seeing the ads, just choose another forum style than the orange-grey default.

RockLee · Apr 28, 2004, 17:48

The only ad I get is the GOOGLE thingy.....isn't that annoying actually

Apr 28, 2004, 19:11

Similer to the chat in the top bar menu only showing in ORANGE-GREY! I always use tatami green the minute I go to the Forum. I hadn't seen ads before this past week.
I switched to the Orange-Grey to be able to go to the chat room and all of a sudden I see all these ads! Good to know there's an easy way to avoid them!

Frank

TwistedMac · Apr 28, 2004, 20:15

most sites that pay for banner space now use the technology "if you don't browse the site for x minutes, your click doesn't count" and as much as i love jref, i'd rather donate some cash (when i get some) than sit and browse crap for a few minutes to give them $0.01

Hachiko · Apr 29, 2004, 03:10

Get an Ad blocker (i.e. Norton Internet Security). Works every time.

Yuka82 · Apr 30, 2004, 19:08

I will donate when I win the lottery.

Apr 26, 2004, 22:40	#1
TwistedMac 夜露死苦! Join Date: Mar 4, 2004 Location: orz.eu Age: 27 Posts: 2,044	i think it's safe to say... those adds you've stuffed into the middle of every thread are goddamn eye-soars.. just mentioning it.. they're ugly as dog** and they crack the threads in odd places, disrupting the flow. -just my 2 sen __________________ 夜露死苦! www.orz.eu I find affence at your post as I ware eyeglass and have lmited site. Sankyuu~! http://japan.orz.eu** - A site for my trip to Japan.

Apr 27, 2004, 02:22	#2
fixelbrumpf Regular Member Join Date: Sep 16, 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 175	Originally Posted by Unregistered Yeah, man, I totally agree with you. I mean, it's not like those "soaring" ads keep the site running or anything. Oh, shoot, forgot to log in. Could someone get rid of the above post, please? __________________ イケメンって日系メン!

Apr 27, 2004, 02:41	#3
kirei_na_me Where I'm Supposed to Be Join Date: Jan 31, 2003 Location: Virginia Age: 33 Posts: 3,922	Originally Posted by fixelbrumpf Oh, shoot, forgot to log in. Could someone get rid of the above post, please? Sure thing. __________________ *i carry your heart with me(i carry it in my heart)*

Apr 27, 2004, 03:47	#5
jeisan Kongming Join Date: Feb 24, 2003 Location: san antonio, texas Age: 26 Posts: 2,848	or just setting them after, instead of before, the last post so its not inbetween... some threads, like this one, dont have ads. i can see others in firefox just fine, unless of course the pic didnt load then i dont even get the box with the red x. __________________ Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity. =[Signature Guidelines]==[User Titles]==[Forum Rules]=

Apr 27, 2004, 04:00	#6
PaulTB Manga Psychic Join Date: Jan 22, 2004 Posts: 2,111	Originally Posted by jeisan or just setting them after, instead of before, the last post so its not inbetween... some threads, like this one, dont have ads. Er it does. If you view it in Internet Explorer. And no, it still doesn't if I view it with Firefox. Originally Posted by jeisan i can see others in firefox just fine, unless of course the pic didnt load There is no pic in Google ads - that's the beauty of them. (As much as any ad can be said to have beauty I've just checked out four other threads at random and none of them had ads showing up in Firefox - although all of them (longer than one post) had a clear but small gap where the ad would have been inserted.

Apr 27, 2004, 03:16	#4
PaulTB Manga Psychic Join Date: Jan 22, 2004 Posts: 2,111	I'm not fussy about ads. Heck I read http://www.fanfiction.net/ and that has pop-up ads one of which has three pop-up dialog boxes as it tries to get you to - register as trusted - run an exe - change your mind when you try to exit it. (Unsurprisingly I tracked down the domain name of that ad and added it to the 'restricted' sites list). I do, however, agree that the ads in their present form are pretty ugly. As small a change as a) Removing the gap before 'n' after. and b) Fit to width of thread would be a big improvement. Incidently when I viewed this thread in Mozilla Firefox the ad completely failed to display.

Apr 27, 2004, 07:54	#7
bossel Regular Member Join Date: Sep 28, 2003 Location: germany Posts: 1,655	Hmm, using Mozilla (though not Firefox) I can see the ads, same width as the thread. Wonder, why. Maybe next time I download a new version, I should go for Firefox.

Apr 27, 2004, 09:37	#8
jeisan Kongming Join Date: Feb 24, 2003 Location: san antonio, texas Age: 26 Posts: 2,848	Originally Posted by PualTB Er it does. If you view it in Internet Explorer. And no, it still doesn't if I view it with Firefox. there are no ads in this thread in IE6 or firefox 0.8 like i said before not all threads have ads. if you want to see an ad, check this thread, above the last post. http://www.jref.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8252&page=2 i can see that ad, using the newest version of firefox 0.8, maybe you have a different version or havent been looking at the right threads. although all of them (longer than one post) had a clear but small gap where the ad would have been inserted. that gap has always been there...

Apr 27, 2004, 10:36	#9
PaulTB Manga Psychic Join Date: Jan 22, 2004 Posts: 2,111	Originally Posted by jeisan there are no ads in this thread in IE6 or firefox 0.8 like i said before not all threads have ads. And like I said before 'Yes it does'. Give me an email and I'll send you the screen shot. if you want to see an ad, check this thread, above the last post. http://www.jref.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8252&page=2 i can see that ad, using the newest version of firefox 0.8, maybe you have a different version or havent been looking at the right threads Firefox 0.8 : No ad. And that's no ad in the source code as well as the display. And no I don't have any anti-ad SW running. Internet Explorer : Ad.

Apr 27, 2004, 12:06	#10
playaa Dog Youkai Join Date: Jan 15, 2004 Location: Clovis, CA Age: 25 Posts: 774	I see any ad right above PaulTB's post. Agreed the ad's suck.. but they do keep the site running. So its wall welcome.. __________________ "Kanpeki to chau, jinsei no shuushi Puramai zero da nanteba honto ka na? Shinu made ni tsukaikiru, un no kazu Semete, jibun de dashiire wo sasete "

Apr 27, 2004, 13:49	#11
Unregistered Guest Posts: n/a	PaulTB, my guess is that you have javascript disabled in Firefox as the ads seem to be Javascript-based.

Apr 27, 2004, 15:06	#12
PaulTB Manga Psychic Join Date: Jan 22, 2004 Posts: 2,111	Originally Posted by Unregistered PaulTB, my guess is that you have javascript disabled in Firefox as the ads seem to be Javascript-based. Good guess. Actually I thought of that while I was falling asleep last night and I was just about to check it when I saw your post. I've got one of those Firefox mods that allows me to put the 'Javascript [ ]' right on the toolbar - very convenient.

Apr 27, 2004, 15:12	#13
jeisan Kongming Join Date: Feb 24, 2003 Location: san antonio, texas Age: 26 Posts: 2,848	lol paul if you and playaa see it, ill agree that it's there, but not on my screen in either IE or firefox. so some people see them one one thread some people see them in another. which would be the cause of this confusion.

Apr 27, 2004, 16:17	#14
dreamer Traveler of eternity Join Date: Aug 15, 2003 Location: Tokyo/Asakusa Age: 26 Posts: 1,825	Hum...I still have the problem with either IE or firefox.... __________________ One of the most adventurous things left for us is to go to bed. For no one can lay a hand on our dreams....

Apr 28, 2004, 04:40	#15
Jean-Francois Danshaku Join Date: Jan 18, 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 271	Ironically, the "ugly location" of these ads makes us aware of their existence. To be honest, if they blend perfectly into the background or look just as beautiful as just another banner, I wouldn't even notice them, not to mention give them a click. Actually, marketing people in the world still have a hard time evaluating the effectiveness of advertisements. But for the advertisers/sponsors, it's the click that matters.

Apr 28, 2004, 15:08	#16
PaulTB Manga Psychic Join Date: Jan 22, 2004 Posts: 2,111	Originally Posted by Jean-Francois Ironically, the "ugly location" of these ads makes us aware of their existence. To be honest, if they blend perfectly into the background or look just as beautiful as just another banner, I wouldn't even notice them, not to mention give them a click. Sure I notice their existance, but the last ad I clicked was somebody looking for their stolen gnome from about a year ago.

Apr 28, 2004, 16:49	#17
Maciamo Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Jul 17, 2002 Location: Austrasia Posts: 6,647	If you don't like seeing the ads, just choose another forum style than the orange-grey default. __________________ Over 100 destinations in the Japan Sightseeing Guide + detailed Tokyo Guide and Kyoto Guide Eupedia : Your Guide to Europe in English Read the "Maciamo FAQ" "What is the use of living, if it be not to strive for noble causes and to make this muddled world a better place for those who will live in it after we are gone?", Winston Churchill.

Apr 28, 2004, 17:48	#18
RockLee Hullu Join Date: Apr 22, 2004 Location: Espoo Age: 26 Posts: 3,084	Nasty bugger The only ad I get is the GOOGLE thingy.....isn't that annoying actually __________________ ~ Parempi hullu kuin tylsä - Better crazy than boring ~ http://www.fin-style.be/blog -> My Blog about Finland and other random thingies.

Apr 28, 2004, 19:11	#19
Unregistered Guest Posts: n/a	Ahh Haa, That Explains It, The Color Thing!!!! Similer to the chat in the top bar menu only showing in ORANGE-GREY! I always use tatami green the minute I go to the Forum. I hadn't seen ads before this past week. I switched to the Orange-Grey to be able to go to the chat room and all of a sudden I see all these ads! Good to know there's an easy way to avoid them! Frank

Apr 28, 2004, 20:15	#20
TwistedMac 夜露死苦! Join Date: Mar 4, 2004 Location: orz.eu Age: 27 Posts: 2,044	most sites that pay for banner space now use the technology "if you don't browse the site for x minutes, your click doesn't count" and as much as i love jref, i'd rather donate some cash (when i get some) than sit and browse crap for a few minutes to give them $0.01

Apr 29, 2004, 03:10	#21
Hachiko The Akita Join Date: Jan 17, 2004 Location: Long Beach, CA Age: 25 Posts: 1,377	Get an Ad blocker (i.e. Norton Internet Security). Works every time. __________________

Apr 30, 2004, 19:08	#22
Yuka82 Regular Member Join Date: Apr 11, 2004 Location: Japan Posts: 25	I will donate when I win the lottery.

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