U.S. defectors

thomas · Oct 20, 2002, 06:38

The New York Times reported on American defectors to NK (Oct. 18, 2002):

News of Ex-G.I. in North Korea Only Deepens Mystery

=> http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/19/in...9d5abd&ei=5040

The former G.I. Charles R. Jenkins mentioned in the article is married to Hitomi Soga, one of the Japanese abductees who is now visiting Japan.

moyashi · Oct 21, 2002, 14:09

Mysterious situations will start to pop more and more I bet. I don't think that this guy deserted though. Just doesn't seem to be the way that many defectors would normally take. I bet "Super's" situation was just a super cover up to avoid hassles and what not with dealing with a stinky situation in the North. Just so much easier to label the poor guy as a defector than try to get him back at the time.

thomas · Oct 21, 2002, 15:36

You're probably right. He was caught during a border patrol and forced to feel at home. Nevertheless, he'd be facing courtmartial once he decides to leave NK...

moyashi · Oct 21, 2002, 17:23

Even if he does. He'll probrably face court martial that will favor on his side due to lack or evidence or some other useful technique.

thomas · Oct 22, 2002, 01:37

Originally posted by moyashi
Even if he does. He'll probrably face court martial that will favor on his side due to lack or evidence or some other useful technique.

Lack of evidence? Would you trust in military jurisprudence? In times like this? Hell, I'd rather enjoy the rest of my life at some North Korean seaside resort for socialist heroes of labour.

moyashi · Oct 22, 2002, 10:30

trust? Ahhh, I was thinking that the US military would try to root him out and force (ahem ... help) him come home.

True, I would trust the military if the guy were legit and they were claiming he was a defector.

thomas · Oct 31, 2002, 23:24

Here we go:

U.S. will court-martial Soga's husband Jenkins if he visits Japan

=> http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content...at=1&id=236759

moyashi · Nov 1, 2002, 11:22

Gee, the US is helping another situation again aren't they ;)

thomas · Nov 1, 2002, 19:31

How long can they actually indict him if they decide to nail him for defection? Doesn't his case fall under any statute of limitation (after nearly 40 years have passed)?

moyashi · Nov 1, 2002, 23:35

I'm pretty sure that the law for normal situations is 20 years, but this is military law here so I really don't know.

The US should be helping and not hampering this situation.

thomas · Nov 2, 2002, 00:00

I agree. Probably they'd just put on a show, some sabre-rattling to eventually acquit him "due to his medical constitution". It's about keeping their face.

Oct 20, 2002, 06:38	#1
thomas Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Mar 14, 2002 Posts: 4,209	U.S. defectors The New York Times reported on American defectors to NK (Oct. 18, 2002): News of Ex-G.I. in North Korea Only Deepens Mystery => http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/19/in...9d5abd&ei=5040 The former G.I. Charles R. Jenkins mentioned in the article is married to Hitomi Soga, one of the Japanese abductees who is now visiting Japan. __________________ Remember what the dormouse said, feed your head, feed your head!

Oct 21, 2002, 14:09	#2
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	Mysterious situations will start to pop more and more I bet. I don't think that this guy deserted though. Just doesn't seem to be the way that many defectors would normally take. I bet "Super's" situation was just a super cover up to avoid hassles and what not with dealing with a stinky situation in the North. Just so much easier to label the poor guy as a defector than try to get him back at the time. __________________ crazy gonna crazy

Oct 22, 2002, 01:37	#5
thomas Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Mar 14, 2002 Posts: 4,209	Originally posted by moyashi Even if he does. He'll probrably face court martial that will favor on his side due to lack or evidence or some other useful technique. Lack of evidence? Would you trust in military jurisprudence? In times like this? Hell, I'd rather enjoy the rest of my life at some North Korean seaside resort for socialist heroes of labour.

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Oct 21, 2002, 15:36	#3
thomas Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Mar 14, 2002 Posts: 4,209	You're probably right. He was caught during a border patrol and forced to feel at home. Nevertheless, he'd be facing courtmartial once he decides to leave NK...

Oct 21, 2002, 17:23	#4
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	Even if he does. He'll probrably face court martial that will favor on his side due to lack or evidence or some other useful technique.

Oct 22, 2002, 10:30	#6
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	trust? Ahhh, I was thinking that the US military would try to root him out and force (ahem ... help) him come home. True, I would trust the military if the guy were legit and they were claiming he was a defector.

Oct 31, 2002, 23:24	#7
thomas Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Mar 14, 2002 Posts: 4,209	Here we go: U.S. will court-martial Soga's husband Jenkins if he visits Japan => http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content...at=1&id=236759

Nov 1, 2002, 11:22	#8
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	Gee, the US is helping another situation again aren't they ;)

Nov 1, 2002, 19:31	#9
thomas Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Mar 14, 2002 Posts: 4,209	How long can they actually indict him if they decide to nail him for defection? Doesn't his case fall under any statute of limitation (after nearly 40 years have passed)?

Nov 1, 2002, 23:35	#10
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	I'm pretty sure that the law for normal situations is 20 years, but this is military law here so I really don't know. The US should be helping and not hampering this situation.

Nov 2, 2002, 00:00	#11
thomas Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Mar 14, 2002 Posts: 4,209	I agree. Probably they'd just put on a show, some sabre-rattling to eventually acquit him "due to his medical constitution". It's about keeping their face.