Hollywood copies Japan

moyashi · Oct 26, 2002, 23:43

- Shoot out at OK Coral = 7 Samurai, Kurosawa
- Magnificent 7 = errr ???? Yojimbo (film title or story was about a Yojimbo), Kurosawa
- Speed = Shinkansen ??? (some 1975 movie with shinkansen blah blah as the title), I don't know the director
- The Ring = Ring

- Mutant Morfant Mutant Rangers (or some other unspeakable name like that) = 10 Ranger, Kaku Ranger or one of the blah blah Ranger series.

Korea is also having fun coping TV shows and movies from Japan.

This was totally unexpected for me. I have never thought of redoing Japanese movies, I bet that over the next few years more and more stories will be copied. Time to cash in is NOW! before too many hawks tie up all the companies.

thomas · Oct 26, 2002, 23:54

And they always call Japanese masters of imitation, tehehe...

moyashi · Oct 27, 2002, 09:56

Yep, it's nice to find one of Japan's creative and original sides!

den4 · Nov 21, 2002, 06:32

I thought Magnificent 7, Battle beyond the stars, and a few others were remakes of seven samurai....
Fist full of dollars and Last Man Standing was remakes of Yojimbo....
and bits of Star Wars were taken from some of Kurosawa movies...but then Hollywood is now in remake syndrome, so....

and they said J-folks lacked imagination...

den4 :O

moyashi · Nov 24, 2002, 13:04

Oh the Japanese are very creative. It's just that the things and creativity is just un-suitable for most American audiences. Just take a look at Robotech. It's based off of Macross. The reason it gained such popularity is that a main character, Roy Folker, died.

The US during the late 50's I believe introduce unsuitable content laws into the cartoon/comic business so that even today G.I.Joe has only androids dieing and purple/pink blood. Heck, even Batman pushes a moral story line. While the orginal Dark Knight in the DC world is ver sinister.

So, sorry Japanese creativity will have to stay on this side of the ocean for a bit longer.

Trust me, they are very creative. Heck, some of it just blows my mind.

jampot · Sep 19, 2004, 06:40

i was shocked and angry when hollywood re-made 'Ring'. Arrogant f*ckers. the film was great as it was. Will they ever learn????

m477 · Sep 19, 2004, 10:00

Hollywood is making their own version of the Japanese movie Shall we Dance.

I also heard that About Schmidt was based on a Japanese story as well. I don't know if that's true or not, but when you think about the protagonist's relationship with his family and his job, he does seem very much like a typical Japanese salaryman.

Eve · Sep 19, 2004, 11:03

Kill all americans!!(J/K) damn stop copying -.-

Se 7 eN · Sep 19, 2004, 14:08

thats how we americans (sadly its true I live in america :'() get all of our movies. We just take them from you guys. If you were to stop making them we wouldnt have any

. Were even remaking Ju-On now. Look it up there is trailers on it.

**jeisan** · Sep 19, 2004, 16:33

lol and they've also remade ju-on.
the grudge starring sarah michelle gellar.
saw the preview before "hero"
icky icky

blessed · Sep 19, 2004, 19:40

and lets not forget dark water (Hideo Nakata, same as ringu)... can you believe he is directing ring 2 (american version)? as if the japanese one wasn't disapointment enought...

sadakoyamamura · Sep 20, 2004, 11:39

Originally Posted by jeisan

lol and they've also remade ju-on.
the grudge starring sarah michelle gellar.
saw the preview before "hero"
icky icky

Ugghh! Give me a break, "I know what you did last summer" didn't even scare me and I never really did watch just a single episode of "Buffy.."

I found some other Jap films due for remakes:

Turn - horror
Ikiru - horror
Chaos - horror
Kairu - horror (To be directed by Wes Craven. Hmm, this I gota see...)
Ghost Actress (aka Don't Look Up) - horror
After Life - drama
Sky High - drama

From what I've been reading, I gather that Hollywood is on the remake path. They are not only making remakes of Jap films but Korean and Hongkong films as well.

**jeisan** · Sep 20, 2004, 11:41

blah they should just subtitle the originals itd be easier and cheaper and better.

Apollo · Sep 20, 2004, 22:48

Originally Posted by m477

I also heard that About Schmidt was based on a Japanese story as well. I don't know if that's true or not, but when you think about the protagonist's relationship with his family and his job, he does seem very much like a typical Japanese salaryman.

Yeah, I can see him as a Japanese salary man too!

I didn't know that About Schmidt was a Japanese original....I only thought that Japanese horror was remade in Hollywood...guess not.

I have heard that Ju-on (american version) was supposed to be ok, but judgements later from me, as I haven't seen it yet. I am looking forward to seeing it.

Eve · Sep 22, 2004, 07:47

they should remake ichi the killa!!

Flashjeff · Oct 2, 2004, 19:39

Well, I saw the trailer for "The Grudge" on TV the other day. I have to admit that from what little I saw, it looked interesting. It might be worth a looksee when it comes out, on Halloween I understand.

adv · Oct 4, 2004, 07:21

About Schmidt is based on an American book. It does reference a Chinese film though.

Sessha · Oct 5, 2004, 06:14

Originally Posted by moyashi

Korea is also having fun coping TV shows and movies from Japan.

Yeah, ture. i was looking for One Missed Call the other day and I found this Korean version of it. They even used the same or same looking mobile.

DVDaholic · Oct 6, 2004, 01:55

Hollywood copies movie from many different countries, and other countries (including Japan sometimes) copy Hollywood. It's nothing new, and will continue as long as there is money to be made.

It's too bad that the average US viewer doesn't try watching movies that are in other languages. I think if they just gave it a shot, it would open up a whole new world of great cinema out there!

DVD's are actually helping a little bit, as it's easier to aquire movies from other countries these days. And at least movies like "Hero" and "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" have found some success in the US, even though they are subtitled (although funded by Hollywood).

Sensebend · Oct 7, 2004, 00:38

Originally Posted by DVDaholic

Hollywood copies movie from many different countries, and other countries (including Japan sometimes) copy Hollywood. It's nothing new, and will continue as long as there is money to be made.

Excellent post!

Apollo · Oct 24, 2004, 07:43

Originally Posted by flashjeff

Well, I saw the trailer for "The Grudge" on TV the other day. I have to admit that from what little I saw, it looked interesting. It might be worth a looksee when it comes out, on Halloween I understand.

Yeah! I can't wait to see it...I have read about the American version, and it sounds interesting.

Flashjeff · Oct 24, 2004, 18:39

Well, I went to see "The Grudge" the other day. The reviews were less than kind, and it didn't do well at the box office, but, without giving too much away, I thought it was fairly good and spooky, though it was hard to look at Sarah Michelle Gellar without thinking of Buffy (The horrors of typecasting). Now I wanna see the original and compare notes!

Apollo · Oct 24, 2004, 20:33

Originally Posted by flashjeff

Well, I went to see "The Grudge" the other day. The reviews were less than kind, and it didn't do well at the box office, but, without giving too much away, I thought it was fairly good and spooky, though it was hard to look at Sarah Michelle Gellar without thinking of Buffy (The horrors of typecasting). Now I wanna see the original and compare notes!

Oh no! You haven't seen the original yet? You should have watched the original first.

And then watched the American version, and..compare after that.

HEHE...anyway, too late now.I hope you like the original version....because the original is very spooky, the sound when the ghost walked still gives me the creeps!!! (I haven't seen the American version yet).

Mike Cash · Oct 24, 2004, 21:51

Originally Posted by Eve

Kill all americans!!(J/K) damn stop copying -.-

Maybe Americans should develop such a weak sense of national identity that they institute an American content law. That'll put a stop to it!

Eve · Oct 25, 2004, 13:24

Yea, they should.

Oct 26, 2002, 23:43	#1
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	Hollywood copies Japan - Shoot out at OK Coral = 7 Samurai, Kurosawa - Magnificent 7 = errr ???? Yojimbo (film title or story was about a Yojimbo), Kurosawa - Speed = Shinkansen ??? (some 1975 movie with shinkansen blah blah as the title), I don't know the director - The Ring = Ring - Mutant Morfant Mutant Rangers (or some other unspeakable name like that) = 10 Ranger, Kaku Ranger or one of the blah blah Ranger series. Korea is also having fun coping TV shows and movies from Japan. This was totally unexpected for me. I have never thought of redoing Japanese movies, I bet that over the next few years more and more stories will be copied. Time to cash in is NOW! before too many hawks tie up all the companies. __________________ crazy gonna crazy

Oct 26, 2002, 23:54	#2
thomas Decommissioned ex-admin Join Date: Mar 14, 2002 Posts: 4,209	And they always call Japanese masters of imitation, tehehe... __________________ Remember what the dormouse said, feed your head, feed your head!

Nov 21, 2002, 06:32	#4
den4 Regular Member Join Date: Nov 15, 2002 Location: mushroom forest Posts: 1,215 Blog Entries: 3	I thought Magnificent 7, Battle beyond the stars, and a few others were remakes of seven samurai.... Fist full of dollars and Last Man Standing was remakes of Yojimbo.... and bits of Star Wars were taken from some of Kurosawa movies...but then Hollywood is now in remake syndrome, so.... and they said J-folks lacked imagination... den4 :O __________________ I know nothing...except the answer is 42. You know more than I do.

Sep 19, 2004, 16:33	#10
jeisan Kongming Join Date: Feb 24, 2003 Location: san antonio, texas Age: 26 Posts: 2,848	lol and they've also remade ju-on. the grudge starring sarah michelle gellar. saw the preview before "hero" icky icky __________________ Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity. =[Signature Guidelines]==[User Titles]==[Forum Rules]=

Sep 19, 2004, 19:40	#11
blessed Regular Member Join Date: Jul 24, 2004 Location: London Age: 23 Posts: 193	and lets not forget dark water (Hideo Nakata, same as ringu)... can you believe he is directing ring 2 (american version)? as if the japanese one wasn't disapointment enought... __________________ Who was Hitler?... a petty dictator living in the times of Stalin. Everyone is intelligent...some before; some afterwards. ... my mood while I've been on this forum... in reverse order!!! hehe

Oct 27, 2002, 09:56	#3
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	Yep, it's nice to find one of Japan's creative and original sides!

Nov 24, 2002, 13:04	#5
moyashi Regular Member Join Date: Apr 15, 2002 Location: SonyLand Age: 40 Posts: 1,566	Oh the Japanese are very creative. It's just that the things and creativity is just un-suitable for most American audiences. Just take a look at Robotech. It's based off of Macross. The reason it gained such popularity is that a main character, Roy Folker, died. The US during the late 50's I believe introduce unsuitable content laws into the cartoon/comic business so that even today G.I.Joe has only androids dieing and purple/pink blood. Heck, even Batman pushes a moral story line. While the orginal Dark Knight in the DC world is ver sinister. So, sorry Japanese creativity will have to stay on this side of the ocean for a bit longer. Trust me, they are very creative. Heck, some of it just blows my mind.

Sep 19, 2004, 06:40	#6
jampot Regular Member Join Date: Sep 18, 2004 Posts: 20	i was shocked and angry when hollywood re-made 'Ring'. Arrogant f*ckers. the film was great as it was. Will they ever learn????

Sep 19, 2004, 10:00	#7
m477 無修正！ Join Date: Jun 6, 2003 Location: Seattle Posts: 300	Hollywood is making their own version of the Japanese movie Shall we Dance. I also heard that About Schmidt was based on a Japanese story as well. I don't know if that's true or not, but when you think about the protagonist's relationship with his family and his job, he does seem very much like a typical Japanese salaryman.

Sep 19, 2004, 11:03	#8
Eve More than words Join Date: Nov 6, 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 417	Kill all americans!!(J/K) damn stop copying -.-

Sep 19, 2004, 14:08	#9
Se 7 eN Regular Member Join Date: Jan 16, 2004 Age: 22 Posts: 52	thats how we americans (sadly its true I live in america :'() get all of our movies. We just take them from you guys. If you were to stop making them we wouldnt have any . Were even remaking Ju-On now. Look it up there is trailers on it.

Sep 20, 2004, 11:39	#12
sadakoyamamura Danshaku Sadako Join Date: Dec 30, 2003 Location: Desktop Posts: 212	Originally Posted by jeisan lol and they've also remade ju-on. the grudge starring sarah michelle gellar. saw the preview before "hero" icky icky Ugghh! Give me a break, "I know what you did last summer" didn't even scare me and I never really did watch just a single episode of "Buffy.." I found some other Jap films due for remakes: Turn - horror Ikiru - horror Chaos - horror Kairu - horror (To be directed by Wes Craven. Hmm, this I gota see...) Ghost Actress (aka Don't Look Up) - horror After Life - drama Sky High - drama From what I've been reading, I gather that Hollywood is on the remake path. They are not only making remakes of Jap films but Korean and Hongkong films as well. __________________ That posterity may know we have not loosely through silence permitted things to pass away as in a dream. � Richard Hooker

Sep 20, 2004, 11:41	#13
jeisan Kongming Join Date: Feb 24, 2003 Location: san antonio, texas Age: 26 Posts: 2,848	blah they should just subtitle the originals itd be easier and cheaper and better.

Sep 20, 2004, 22:48	#14
Apollo Cat lover Join Date: Mar 28, 2004 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Age: 30 Posts: 1,593	Originally Posted by m477 I also heard that About Schmidt was based on a Japanese story as well. I don't know if that's true or not, but when you think about the protagonist's relationship with his family and his job, he does seem very much like a typical Japanese salaryman. Yeah, I can see him as a Japanese salary man too! I didn't know that About Schmidt was a Japanese original....I only thought that Japanese horror was remade in Hollywood...guess not. I have heard that Ju-on (american version) was supposed to be ok, but judgements later from me, as I haven't seen it yet. I am looking forward to seeing it. __________________

Sep 22, 2004, 07:47	#15
Eve More than words Join Date: Nov 6, 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 417	they should remake ichi the killa!!

Oct 2, 2004, 19:39	#16
Flashjeff Pink Lady's Number #1 Fan Join Date: Dec 28, 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Age: 50 Posts: 1,377	Well, I saw the trailer for "The Grudge" on TV the other day. I have to admit that from what little I saw, it looked interesting. It might be worth a looksee when it comes out, on Halloween I understand.

Oct 4, 2004, 07:21	#17
adv Junior Member Join Date: Sep 28, 2004 Location: Washington D.C. Posts: 12	About Schmidt is based on an American book. It does reference a Chinese film though.

Oct 5, 2004, 06:14	#18
Sessha Kikenna Sinshi Join Date: Aug 1, 2004 Posts: 15	Originally Posted by moyashi Korea is also having fun coping TV shows and movies from Japan. Yeah, ture. i was looking for One Missed Call the other day and I found this Korean version of it. They even used the same or same looking mobile. __________________ sesshaha musha da to omotteruyo!

Oct 6, 2004, 01:55	#19
DVDaholic Junior Member Join Date: Mar 17, 2004 Posts: 17	Hollywood copies movie from many different countries, and other countries (including Japan sometimes) copy Hollywood. It's nothing new, and will continue as long as there is money to be made. It's too bad that the average US viewer doesn't try watching movies that are in other languages. I think if they just gave it a shot, it would open up a whole new world of great cinema out there! DVD's are actually helping a little bit, as it's easier to aquire movies from other countries these days. And at least movies like "Hero" and "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" have found some success in the US, even though they are subtitled (although funded by Hollywood).

Oct 7, 2004, 00:38	#20
Sensebend Regular Member Join Date: Sep 18, 2004 Posts: 51	Originally Posted by DVDaholic Hollywood copies movie from many different countries, and other countries (including Japan sometimes) copy Hollywood. It's nothing new, and will continue as long as there is money to be made. Excellent post!

Oct 24, 2004, 07:43	#21
Apollo Cat lover Join Date: Mar 28, 2004 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Age: 30 Posts: 1,593	Originally Posted by flashjeff Well, I saw the trailer for "The Grudge" on TV the other day. I have to admit that from what little I saw, it looked interesting. It might be worth a looksee when it comes out, on Halloween I understand. Yeah! I can't wait to see it...I have read about the American version, and it sounds interesting.

Oct 24, 2004, 18:39	#22
Flashjeff Pink Lady's Number #1 Fan Join Date: Dec 28, 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Age: 50 Posts: 1,377	Well, I went to see "The Grudge" the other day. The reviews were less than kind, and it didn't do well at the box office, but, without giving too much away, I thought it was fairly good and spooky, though it was hard to look at Sarah Michelle Gellar without thinking of Buffy (The horrors of typecasting). Now I wanna see the original and compare notes!

Oct 24, 2004, 20:33	#23
Apollo Cat lover Join Date: Mar 28, 2004 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Age: 30 Posts: 1,593	Originally Posted by flashjeff Well, I went to see "The Grudge" the other day. The reviews were less than kind, and it didn't do well at the box office, but, without giving too much away, I thought it was fairly good and spooky, though it was hard to look at Sarah Michelle Gellar without thinking of Buffy (The horrors of typecasting). Now I wanna see the original and compare notes! Oh no! You haven't seen the original yet? You should have watched the original first. And then watched the American version, and..compare after that. HEHE...anyway, too late now.I hope you like the original version....because the original is very spooky, the sound when the ghost walked still gives me the creeps!!! (I haven't seen the American version yet).

Oct 24, 2004, 21:51	#24
Mike Cash Delusions of Adequacy Join Date: Mar 15, 2002 Location: Japan Posts: 5,417	Originally Posted by Eve Kill all americans!!(J/K) damn stop copying -.- Maybe Americans should develop such a weak sense of national identity that they institute an American content law. That'll put a stop to it! __________________ Kiva: Loans That Change Lives

Oct 25, 2004, 13:24	#25
Eve More than words Join Date: Nov 6, 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 417	Yea, they should.

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