Needin some help with Japanese >.<

Zuwadza · Jul 2, 2004, 15:19

Hi! Sorry if this is the wrong forum but i was wondering if i could get some help with Japanese since all the Japanese I know is baka.. which wouldnt help me get around Japan. I just would like to know basic words since i cant take any classes right now.

Thanks

MetalGear RAY · Jul 3, 2004, 04:00

Originally Posted by Zuwadza

Hi! Sorry if this is the wrong forum but i was wondering if i could get some help with Japanese since all the Japanese I know is baka.. which wouldnt help me get around Japan. I just would like to know basic words since i cant take any classes right now.

Thanks

Hi, I'm learning Jap since a month, I think I can help you... Take note that what I'll write here is not that elaborate and always take priority on what other people on the forums will tell you, instead of what I'll tell you...

"Japanese word order fun is." The word order is Subject + Object + Verb. It may sound weird, but you'll get used to it. You said the only word you know is "Baka" ? I'll try to explain the word order with it. And there are no articles (The, An, A) So, "a car" and "cars" sound the same.

私はばかです。
Watashi wa baka desu.
I am stupid.

"Watashi" means I
"Wa" Indicates that "Watashi" is the topic of the sentence.
"Baka" You already know that one...
"Desu" is the verb "To be"

And now, let's suppose you'd want to tell me I'm stupid

Here is a list of basic pronouns:

Watashi = I
Anata = You (Singular)
Kare = He
Kanojo = She
Watashitashi = We
Anatatashi = You (plural)
Karera = They (men)
Kanojora = They (women)* not sure...

You should be able to reply back and write "You're stupid." in Japanese...
Try to make this sentence...

--------------------------------------------------------------
PARTICLES

Probably the most important things to know as a beginner...

"Wa" Indicates the topic of the sentence.
Example: "Watashi wa" = I

"Ga" is almost the same thing than "Wa", but you wouldn't understand

Example: "Watashi ga" = I

"No" can convert personal pronouns into possessive pronouns !
Example: "Watashi no" = My

"Wo" (pronounced o) indicates the direct object
Example: "Watashi wa hon wo yomu." I read a book.

"Ni" indicates the indirect object...
Example: "Anata wa Nihon ni ikimasu ka."Do you go to Japan ?

"De" means By, By means of
Ex1: "Kare wa empitsu de kakimasu." He writes by means of a pencil.

But it also means where an action is happening.
Ex2: Watashi wa watashi no uchi de itte imasu. I'm going, in my house.

Ex2 sounds more like : I'm going, while I'm in my house.

---------------------------------------------------------------
VERBS
Verbs in Japanese have only two tenses: Persent and past. But they have multiple forms...

Miru = To see
Mimasu = More polite form of "To see"
Goranninaru = Keigo form of "to see"

But let's get back to the point:

TO SEE
Present = Mimasu
Past = Mimashita

----------------------------------------------------------------
ADJECTIVES
There are -i adjs. and -na adjs.

-i Adjectives have multiple forms:
- Present
- Negative
- Past
- Negative Past

Muzukashii = Difficult
Muzukashikunai = Not difficult
Muzukashikatta = (Was) difficult
Muzukashikunakatta = (Wasn't) difficult

-Na adjs. don't have multiple forms like -i adjs.

Genki = Well, healthy
Genki na hito = Healthy person
---------------------------------------------------------------

Here are some sites you should use to learn Japanese (the same sites I used)
*I'm not trying to make some advertising here, I just want to help someone, Okay ?

http://www.thejapanesepage.com
http://www.learn-japanese.info
http://www.kanjistep.com (for the writing)

And you should use Pimsleur Jap Program, made for spoken Japanese only...

Hey, I didn't tell you where you could get that Pimsleur thingy... Since it's related to P2P, etc, I don't know if it's legal to talk about that here... I'll send you a PV.

Oh yeah, and a hint for you: When I began to learn Japanese, I've made a little dictionary classed by categories (Nouns, Particles, Verb, Adjectives) and when I knew a new word, I wrote it in that dict, with its meaning next to this word.

And I've made a little document about some grammar points (How to use some Particles, etc) and a little .txt document with Japanese phrases inside..
Like when I learnt a new thing, I made a sentence related to what I've learned and some new words I know, and so on...

**Glenn** · Jul 3, 2004, 05:42

Well, that's a pretty good explanation, MetalGear RAY. Good job. It looks as though your studies are paying off.

One question, though, why did you leave all of that space in the middle of the message?

PaulTB · Jul 3, 2004, 05:48

Originally Posted by Glenn

One question, though, why did you leave all of that space in the middle of the message?

Spoiler　space,　...　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　 of sorts.

MetalGear RAY · Jul 3, 2004, 07:52

Originally Posted by Glenn

Well, that's a pretty good explanation, MetalGear RAY. Good job. It looks as though your studies are paying off.

Glad to hear that.

One question, though, why did you leave all of that space in the middle of the message?

Just for fun.. I just can't explain exactly why...

---------------------------------

Originally Posted by Zuwadza

Sorry if this is the wrong forum

Wrong forum ? 日本語の勉強 means "Japanese studies". I can assure you it's far from being the wrong forum..

That's what you meant, right ?

Elizabeth · Jul 3, 2004, 08:16

I think he meant because this is meant to be the forum to actually write your post in Japanese....but we still found you even here, Zuwadza.

Sinspawne · Jul 19, 2004, 09:08

Thanks Metal Gear Ray.
helped me out a lot and motivated me

are you studying japanese in a class, or independently?

MetalGear RAY · Jul 19, 2004, 11:06

Originally Posted by Sinspawne

Thanks Metal Gear Ray.
helped me out a lot and motivated me

are you studying japanese in a class, or independently?

Independently.

-------------------------------------------------------

http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~thoureau/japanese.html
LMAO

Doesn't help to study it (which is very unlikely from this one) but this is just too funny... XD

Sinspawne · Jul 19, 2004, 14:06

Yeah that one !
laughed my *** off first time i read it

tha_rippa1be · Jul 29, 2004, 22:10

i'm using http://japanese-online.com

wow MetalGear RAY you learned this all on a month?!

... maybe i could to... if i learned more

Jul 2, 2004, 15:19	#1
Zuwadza FTW! Join Date: Jul 2, 2004 Age: 20 Posts: 5	Needin some help with Japanese >.< Hi! Sorry if this is the wrong forum but i was wondering if i could get some help with Japanese since all the Japanese I know is baka.. which wouldnt help me get around Japan. I just would like to know basic words since i cant take any classes right now. Thanks __________________ Sleep~

Jul 3, 2004, 04:00	#2
MetalGear RAY Junior Member Join Date: Jun 22, 2004 Age: 19 Posts: 16	Originally Posted by Zuwadza Hi! Sorry if this is the wrong forum but i was wondering if i could get some help with Japanese since all the Japanese I know is baka.. which wouldnt help me get around Japan. I just would like to know basic words since i cant take any classes right now. Thanks Hi, I'm learning Jap since a month, I think I can help you... Take note that what I'll write here is not that elaborate and always take priority on what other people on the forums will tell you, instead of what I'll tell you... "Japanese word order fun is." The word order is Subject + Object + Verb. It may sound weird, but you'll get used to it. You said the only word you know is "Baka" ? I'll try to explain the word order with it. And there are no articles (The, An, A) So, "a car" and "cars" sound the same. 私はばかです。 Watashi wa baka desu. I am stupid. "Watashi" means I "Wa" Indicates that "Watashi" is the topic of the sentence. "Baka" You already know that one... "Desu" is the verb "To be" And now, let's suppose you'd want to tell me I'm stupid Here is a list of basic pronouns: Watashi = I Anata = You (Singular) Kare = He Kanojo = She Watashitashi = We Anatatashi = You (plural) Karera = They (men) Kanojora = They (women)* not sure... You should be able to reply back and write "You're stupid." in Japanese... Try to make this sentence... -------------------------------------------------------------- PARTICLES Probably the most important things to know as a beginner... "Wa" Indicates the topic of the sentence. Example: "Watashi wa" = I "Ga" is almost the same thing than "Wa", but you wouldn't understand Example: "Watashi ga" = I "No" can convert personal pronouns into possessive pronouns ! Example: "Watashi no" = My "Wo" (pronounced o) indicates the direct object Example: "Watashi wa hon wo yomu." I read a book. "Ni" indicates the indirect object... Example: "Anata wa Nihon ni ikimasu ka."Do you go to Japan ? "De" means By, By means of Ex1: "Kare wa empitsu de kakimasu." He writes by means of a pencil. But it also means where an action is happening. Ex2: Watashi wa watashi no uchi de itte imasu. I'm going, in my house. Ex2 sounds more like : I'm going, while I'm in my house. --------------------------------------------------------------- VERBS Verbs in Japanese have only two tenses: Persent and past. But they have multiple forms... Miru = To see Mimasu = More polite form of "To see" Goranninaru = Keigo form of "to see" But let's get back to the point: TO SEE Present = Mimasu Past = Mimashita ---------------------------------------------------------------- ADJECTIVES There are -i adjs. and -na adjs. -i Adjectives have multiple forms: - Present - Negative - Past - Negative Past Muzukashii = Difficult Muzukashikunai = Not difficult Muzukashikatta = (Was) difficult Muzukashikunakatta = (Wasn't) difficult -Na adjs. don't have multiple forms like -i adjs. Genki = Well, healthy Genki na hito = Healthy person --------------------------------------------------------------- Here are some sites you should use to learn Japanese (the same sites I used) I'm not trying to make some advertising here, I just want to help someone, Okay ? http://www.thejapanesepage.com http://www.learn-japanese.info http://www.kanjistep.com (for the writing) And you should use Pimsleur Jap Program, made for spoken Japanese only... Hey, I didn't tell you where you could get that Pimsleur thingy... Since it's related to P2P, etc, I don't know if it's legal to talk about that here... I'll send you a PV. Oh yeah, and a hint for you: When I began to learn Japanese, I've made a little dictionary classed by categories (Nouns, Particles, Verb, Adjectives) and when I knew a new word, I wrote it in that dict, with its meaning next to this word. And I've made a little document about some grammar points (How to use some Particles, etc) and a little .txt document with Japanese phrases inside.. Like when I learnt a new thing, I made a sentence related to what I've learned and some new words I know, and so on... __________________ Proud owner of the most unoriginal avatar on the whole forum:* A not-too-well done Kanji meaning "Watashi"

Jul 3, 2004, 05:42	#3
Glenn 考え中 Join Date: Jan 8, 2004 Posts: 5,544	Well, that's a pretty good explanation, MetalGear RAY. Good job. It looks as though your studies are paying off. One question, though, why did you leave all of that space in the middle of the message? __________________ Avoid Mojibake! -- 文字化けを避ける！ Dictionary at Goo - English-Japanese, Japanese-English, Japanese Language Teach Yourself Japanese and Teach Yourself Japanese Message Board Jim Breen's online dictionary and kanji lookup

Jul 3, 2004, 05:48	#4
PaulTB Manga Psychic Join Date: Jan 22, 2004 Posts: 2,111	Originally Posted by Glenn One question, though, why did you leave all of that space in the middle of the message? Spoiler　space,　...　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　 of sorts.

Jul 3, 2004, 07:52	#5
MetalGear RAY Junior Member Join Date: Jun 22, 2004 Age: 19 Posts: 16	Originally Posted by Glenn Well, that's a pretty good explanation, MetalGear RAY. Good job. It looks as though your studies are paying off. Glad to hear that. One question, though, why did you leave all of that space in the middle of the message? Just for fun.. I just can't explain exactly why... --------------------------------- Originally Posted by Zuwadza Sorry if this is the wrong forum Wrong forum ? 日本語の勉強 means "Japanese studies". I can assure you it's far from being the wrong forum.. That's what you meant, right ?

Jul 3, 2004, 08:16	#6
Elizabeth Regular Member Join Date: Apr 22, 2003 Location: アメリカ Posts: 8,509	I think he meant because this is meant to be the forum to actually write your post in Japanese....but we still found you even here, Zuwadza. __________________ たとえ辛くても、永遠に続く苦しみなどないでしょう。

Jul 19, 2004, 09:08	#7
Sinspawne ...what?!... Join Date: Jul 17, 2004 Age: 25 Posts: 180	Thanks Metal Gear Ray. helped me out a lot and motivated me are you studying japanese in a class, or independently? __________________ If In Doubt... Run And Hide...

Jul 19, 2004, 11:06	#8
MetalGear RAY Junior Member Join Date: Jun 22, 2004 Age: 19 Posts: 16	Originally Posted by Sinspawne Thanks Metal Gear Ray. helped me out a lot and motivated me are you studying japanese in a class, or independently? Independently. ------------------------------------------------------- http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~thoureau/japanese.html LMAO Doesn't help to study it (which is very unlikely from this one) but this is just too funny... XD

Jul 19, 2004, 14:06	#9
Sinspawne ...what?!... Join Date: Jul 17, 2004 Age: 25 Posts: 180	Yeah that one ! laughed my *** off first time i read it

Jul 29, 2004, 22:10	#10
tha_rippa1be Regular Member Join Date: Jul 26, 2004 Location: kapellen Age: 22 Posts: 62	i'm using http://japanese-online.com wow MetalGear RAY you learned this all on a month?! ... maybe i could to... if i learned more

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