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Japanese Adult Videos

Discussion in 'All Things Japanese' started by mad pierrot, Apr 27, 2006.

  1. mad pierrot

    mad pierrot I jump to conclusions
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    Eventually, someone had to broach this topic. I am that someone.



    Before I begin, if you are easily offended, under 18, immature, or just unable to talk about this subject in an adult manner, stop reading this thread now.

    Now that's out of the way, let me start by making some general comments. I'm sure most of the people on this forum have, at some time or another, seen pornography. Just being connected to the internet almost guarantees that. So, I'm working with the assumption everyone has seen your basic dirty movie.

    Here's what I want to discuss: Has it ever struck anyone how odd adult films are in Japan? Why do you think they're like this? What do you think this reflects about Japan?

    2 things come to mind:

    1. Censorship
    2. Abundance of really extreme, almost criminal subjects.


    Take number one for example: Japanese pornography is prevalent EVERYWHERE. You'll find men reading it on the trains, magazines full of it stacked in every store, advertisements posted in phone booths, walls, and every other concievable place. Walk down any street in Tokyo, and you're sure to find TONS of "video rental" stores. Like, one on every block. Looking inside the stores, you find the entire store is devoted to nothing but smutty films. Take a look at any of these magazines, and you're likely to find anything from some bizarre tentacle porn to a group of old men gang raping a high school girl in toilet stall. Contradiction number one: Sure, it's perfectly ok to have an old man brutally violating a 12-year old girl, but show genitalia? NO! Isn't this a little silly? Again, think of all the nasty things you could do, advertise it everywhere, and then blurr out the crotches. What exactly does the Japanese Board of Censors think they're accomplishing?



    Number two ties directly into number one. Maybe this is just me, but it seems the majority of Japanese pornography I have come across is incredibly, well, aggressive and violent. So much, in fact, that I see local video stores with entire walls devoted to the "rape" section. Am I looney or is American pornography this bad, too? My friends here tend to agree: Japanese adult videos tend to focus on men doing violent, humiliating things FORCIBLY to often under-age women. (Another category: school girls. What does Japan find so attractive about violating helpless girls in middle school uniforms?) What good does this say about Japanese society? What's going on in the minds of most Japanese men? Or am I off my rocker, and American porn is just as violent and obsessed with extremely young girls?


    Thoughts and comments please!








    And don't pretend that you haven't seen any. ;-)
     
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  2. Revenant

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    I haven't seen a lot of either western or Japanese porn, so my take is a bit limited.

    I can't say that I've seen a porn starring a girl who looked twelve, but then again, westerners also get together with Japanese girls six-to-eight years older thinking they are the same age

    I wonder if from an entirely evolutionary perspective, a girl aged 16-21 would be at the height of her health, and therefore ideal for bearing one's children. After all, waist to hip ratio, fat percentage, and the genotype of the immune system also play a role in who which girls we are attracted to, so why wouldn't age also be a factor, and why would the age of the male be a factor?

    Perhaps the school uniform is synonymous with the girls of that ideal age group, and this is the reason the Japanese males are obssessed with it.

    In almost all of the videos I've seen, there is usually one rape scene. It beats me why they include it. I also wonder what is going in on the mind of a Japanese male.

    As to the censoring, some people think it actually heightens excitement, as there is still an air of mystery. But I agree, the censoring and the seemingly underage girls are contradictory.

    On a sidenote, when I look in the adult section, I now only look at the top twenty videos. Looking elsewhere is taking the risk that I will come across some very disturbing pics on videos.
     
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  3. dreamer

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    Well I've never been into the pr0n stuff but whenever my friends talk about japanese adult videos, he always mentions how he'd like someone as submissive, etc.
    To my mind, since the japanese society is very hierarchy-oriented, people need a way to "release some steam"...
    I think that whenever they watch these videos they imagine themselves exercising a power they have not in real life, power that excite them and give them several kind of "pleasure" at the same time.
     
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  4. Index

    Index 窶禿塒弯
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    I noticed that about Japanese pornos too-they are agressive and demeaning to the poor girsl who always sound like they are crying (they probably are too). It might be related to the mother's boy syndrome that a lot of Japanese men (especially younger ones) have-in other words they are usually so shy around women and unable to express themselves that in their fantasies they go to the opposite extreme and hurt, rape and whatever else. This is probably the market pornographers are aiming for. In terms of marketing they are right. Just look at how many overworked, underpaid young salary men without social lives (except company colleagues with whom its hard to relax) or the opportunity to meet girls, learn how to talk to them and actually get to know them (let alone sleep with) there are. A HUGE market.
     
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  5. Davey

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    HIHIHIHI... :oops: sex sex sex sex sex hihihihi....


    The censorship thing, well I am wondering WHY? you are in a love hotel watching an av and see Censorship, is this because of the size of the penis of the ahum * Most of them UGLY* porn stars. or because of the fact only man watch AV so please only show most female parts.. I don't understand that.

    Second, there are a lot of Rape video's , and this stuff I just don't like, it like it a bit rough, but like 4 guys and one girl... Nandeyanen!! also Bukake I don't think that is my favorite.

    For the rest is Japanese porn not that bad, and I like to watch it... Less then 2 months and I can have sex for real with my Lady.



    Will there be any change in the future years, in Porn, if Female are getting more power/ rights * you know what I am talking about * in Japan.
     
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  6. yukio_michael

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    Well, some people are ecchi, some are not. I knew some Japanese couples who would watch AV together, my girlfriend and I watched A/V together... but she didn't like Japanese AV at all, she liked big western girls...

    Ahem. That said, moving on... I have been told that the reason for censorship goes back to laws enacted during the American occupation. I'ts distracting, but I've never found it to be that big of an issue...

    There is of course lots of different types of AV and there is the kind that caters to the older oyaji male, who feels paralyzed in fear at the power that the Japanese girls (much) younger than them possess to manufacture desire...

    So, they rent ロリAV get a package of Lawson chicken parts, some Draft One beer, and sink into their middle aged depression.* I think AV that depcits overpowering others caters to those who feel most un-empowered.

    Still... AV is seen largely as otaku, or as something for the oyaji to read on comuter trains. There's no hip-ness or liberal mindedness that makes it seem acceptable and some sort of 'marital aid' as it does in the US, and the anything goes "AV" of Europe... But also in Japan, there's still no outcry, no think about the children! campaigns. So, you look like a pervert--- oyaji, what can you do?

    AV will always sort of be smutty Mens マガジン as they say on the side of the shop... I'm sure if it ever turned out to be all that acceptable, it would loose its appeal entirely.

    *pls don't point out that I am essentially middle-aged.
     
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  7. Revenant

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    Actually, the wife sometimes suggests I get a porn video. She particularly likes the porn with a story of sorts to it, even if the story is a bit...stretched. She is however too shy to head into the porn section herself. I'm not terribly keen on porns, wonder if I'm losing my sex-drive.

    One of the wife's teachers was an AV otaku. His apartment was stacked with AV magazines, videos, and other paraphenalia. He did end up getting married, and I wonder how the wife feels about his MASSIVE collection. More I wonder how he kept his job in a Highschool. Wouldn't such a feverish interest raise concerns among other teachers and parents?
     
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  8. Davey

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    brrrrrrrrr I am thinking of GTO, but than more sexual hahahaha:p
     
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  9. Revenant

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    Actually, the wife was reminded of her teacher after I told her I had read a bit of GTO in the bookstore. He's supposed to be somehow compassionate? I didn't get that far, and only read perhaps half of the first comic.
     
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  10. RockLee

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    I noticed that too Mad P.

    It seems there is much more variaty in Japanese porn; eg. Tentacles, hentai, rape(a lot of that), sm, schoolgirls, etc..
    I saw a documentary on it a while ago, that Japan has a long sex-culture. If you look at the 'naked sushi' concept, where men eat from naked women.
    There are some really nasty American porno's too, like animalsex, scat and all that. So it's not only Japan :)

    I think the schoolgirl thing is a lolita-complex issue. It seems there are a lot of older guys who dig schoolgirls.
     
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  11. yukio_michael

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    See The Dream of the Fisherman's Wife etcetera... etcetera...
     
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  12. godppgo

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    My gf prefers porn with a plot. Not the patient/nurse, boss/secretary, teacher/student that sorta plot but something that you actually need to think to know what's going on.

    Instead of the heavily graphically presented hardcore American porn, I find Japanese porn centers around the idea of moral struggling. The Japanese society itself is bounded by so many moral values that porn become a way for the Japanese men to vent their moral-bounding pressure. Therefore you have plot such as incest, rape, and underage which stimulate the highly strained moral/ethical nerve of Japanese men. Then I guess the rest is just hormone.
     
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  13. dreamer

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    Hum...just a silly question... is there actually really underage kids pr0n ADV in japan? (o_O; )
    If so, isn't there any children protection law?
     
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  14. RockLee

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    There isn't Dreamer, it's illigal as in all other countries. The actresses just look young :) I don't know about the "underground porno" though. I guess such things happen everywhere. :(
     
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  15. pipokun

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    They all, porns, hostess/host clubs , or whatever, are just in the floating world, Ukiyo.
    In the real world, Japan is safer than other countries.

    I was really surprised to hear what a North American told me. She got a lecture, I forgot it was her sex education or not, girls are supposed to check under her car when they drive.
    Is it true?
     
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  16. yukio_michael

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    窶愿コ窶怒ナ津ェ窶堙坂?弖窶ーツコ窶伉セ窶「ツス窶堙??堋キ窶堋ェ窶「窶堋青「窶堙俄?堋「窶堙懌?堋キツ。 ツ「ツ債。ツ青「ツ」窶堙ャ窶怒窶懌?凪?堙個青「窶堙??堋キ窶堙ヲツ。
     
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  17. Davey

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    ???????????
     
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  18. yukio_michael

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    Arrgh! My Japanese is that hard to undersand... (punches head...) :(

    I'm saying that japan IS the real world, that japan was defined as being in ukiyo, it's safe, but it's still ukiyo. Can you fix my hen nihongo?
     
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  19. MeAndroo

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    One thing I've noticed about Japanese AVs is how rarely girls are shaven. Perhaps this isn't exclusive to Japan, bit I've seen other asian, and some european, and the percentage of shaved girls is always much higher.
     
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  20. nurizeko

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    I read somewhere a theory (i think on this actual forum but my memory doesnt register J-ref as a priority) that the age group Japanese men have been attracted to has got younger as their previous group has become increasingly more independent and not easily dominated, and japanese men apparently arent good at competing with these previous groups because they have confidence issues or something like that? so their age group of appeal gets younger and younger to a age group assumed to be more easily seduced/dominated.

    As a 20 year old male with a girlfriend that will NEVER visit this website ( dont jynx me!!!) i can safely declare that i have watched porn, and i have watched japanese porn (though ive never come across that rape stuff).

    I used to be a bit concerned, the japanese ladies in the dirty film seemed to cry out in pain or look in pain, suffice to say it wasnt exactly turning me on or anything, i got used to it, but yeah, Japanese porn is definately different.

    Since japan is the second most largest porno industry apparently, Japanese guys obviously love the stuff, and i thought watching a porno every few weeks was bad :S.
     
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  21. yukio_michael

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    This has for me, carried over into 'real life'... it's a bit scary at first... ツ「what, wait, daijoubu, ii???ツ」 I don't usually associate the crying noise w/ pleasure.
     
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  22. senseiman

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    The thing that I've noticed is that the guy/girl ratio in Japanese and American porn is different. In American porn, it seems to be an unwritten rule (well, I've probably only seen 5 or 6 American porn films so this isn't an expert analysis) that you should always have either the same number of guys and girls or more girls than guys in every scene. (Of course I suppose for gay porn it would be different). But in Japan it seems to be the opposite (again, I've only seen a few so I'm not an expert), it seems that in most of the scenes the guys outnumber the girls.

    That struck me as odd.
     
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  23. Hanneesh

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    i love school girls! but i'm still at school so hahahaha.
    mature school girls that is. I think young young girls in porn is peodo-ish
    i've never seen jap porn. i intend to sample it one day. mmmmmm pornoooo
     
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  24. Davey

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    lol, i guess someone needs to get...
     
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  25. Hanneesh

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    lmoa! hey hey i'm on my way. Give it time and i will be bak.
    i'm pretty good lookin you kno. i'll put a pic on my profile soon.
     
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