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Discussion in 'Japan Practical' started by new2japan, Aug 2, 2006.

  1. new2japan

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    i wish to visit a japanese soapland or massage parlor that caters to adult activities, where can i find some that will allow americans in the tokyo area? how much should i bring?
     
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  2. Mike Cash

    Mike Cash Delusions of Adequacy
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    You can find them around many major stations in Tokyo. In Shinjuku's Kabukicho district you will be accosted by touts for places that will allow you in.

    Bring as much as you wish to lose.
     
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  3. nice gaijin

    nice gaijin Resident Realist
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    That says it all!
     
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  4. cursore

    cursore New Member

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    ?? WHat is that?
     
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  5. Mike Cash

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    He's asking about whorehouses that will let foreigners in. Most won't.
     
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  6. cursore

    cursore New Member

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    :relief: Opsss..... :bluush:
     
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  7. nice gaijin

    nice gaijin Resident Realist
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    I have no interest in going, but I'm curious about the reasons for not permitting foreigners. Are they supposedly too rough/prone to cause trouble? Do they scare the other patrons? Do they try to pay with foreign currency? Are these the kind of places that Arudou Debito and the like are so upset over being barred from entering?

    Also, are the "soaplands" whorehouses in the same sense as an "escort service," or "happy-ending masseuse?" Sorry this is one aspect of Japanese culture I never really bothered to learn about :relief:
     
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  8. cursore

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    Yeah yeah.. not interested... (Just kidding), so if foreigner are not allowed why bother?
     
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  9. lu_bu1977

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    The reason(s) is similar to why a KKK-run brothel wouldn't admit a non-white patron. Another facet of garden variety racial discrimination in Japan. Nothing more.

    If it's any consolation, non-Japanese East Asians are not allowed in either from what I heard.
     
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  10. Emoni

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    Only a matter of time before I saw a thread like this on here I guess. However, from what I heard the reason was a mix of racial discrimination as well as the belief that foreigners are prone to carrying diseases due from other countries. Like Nice Gaijin, this isn't exactly something I've studied. However, it was hilarious to see a soapland behind the police box in Shibuya... I guess they have very special 3 minute lunch breaks.
     
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  11. koolkool

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    Soapland

    So its for sure that no gaijin of any kind of races except the Japanese can enter the soapland ,right? Or wrong ?:souka:
     
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  12. lu_bu1977

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    Emoni, there is little doubt that this belief is rampant. In fact, I highlighted this in an earlier post (http://www.jref.com/forum/showpost.php?p=363630&postcount=34).

    However, when you juxtaposition that "foreigners-carry-diseases" belief with the fact that Japanese male tourists are among the greatest "connoisseurs" of the sex trade in foreign countries (e.g. Bangkok), that belief appears utterly disingenuous, hypocritical and downright laughable.
     
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  13. Mike Cash

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    No, that is incorrect.

    Notice in an earlier thread that I said there are touts who specialize in accosting foreigners?

    And, despite the "KKK" hyperbole, racism is not a dominant factor in barring foreigners. One of the prime reasons is the trouble they can cause. These sorts of establishments are actually regulated by law, believe it or not. And while all sorts of things go on in them, the one thing which does not go on in practically any of them, and which foreigners expect of whorehouses, is vaginal penetration....which is illegal. Manual, oral, and anal sex are all legal, but not vaginal.

    Let's face it: Guys who are scummy enough to ***** out their own nation's women at all aren't exactly going to care who is handing over the money, provided two factors are met. 1) They make a sufficient portion of the customer base to make catering to them outweigh the aggravation factor and 2) catering to them doesn't increase the chances of run-ins with the authorities.

    Those two factors aren't met.
     
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  14. lu_bu1977

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    That appears to be correct. Unless of course you can mimick a Japanese native well enough (some folks I know, did that), or you encounter a "shop" aka brothel, that caters to foreigners. From what I was told, these shops usually serve foreigners with foreigner pros though.

    By and large, japanese ladies are off-limits to foreigners in fleshpot establishments. Woah, is apartheid great or what?! ;-)

    Hey, since you're already there, check it out for yourself (try to get in as a test). You'd realise that what I've said is largely true. I'd take my colleagues words over those from some of the smitten posters here any day of the week.

    Disclaimer: Engaging prostitutes for sex is considered a high-risk behaviour for STDs. I do not advocate visiting any such establishments for such a purpose, especially those that have a dangerous yet stupefying and unqualified belief that a greater percentage of foreigners carry diseases than the locals.
     
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  15. ArmandV

    ArmandV Seven Times To Japan
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    If you absolutely gotta get into a soapland, here's some info:

    http://www.tokyopinkguide.com/

    If you have to spend your hard-earned dollars on this, instead of more noble things in Japan, be my guest.
     
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  16. cursore

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    It is a websense page... I will have a look at home... but anyway you gave me an idea for a new thread as I will go to Japan next month...
     
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  17. ArmandV

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    Beware, the site does have some "racey" content.
     
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  18. cursore

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    Against foreigners? or against Japanese?
     
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  19. ArmandV

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    None of the above. Just items for "mature audiences."
     
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  20. Han Chan

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    Soapland sound so nice! Remember that we are talking about prostitution - and popibly human traficking and child abuse!

    This is from a recent ILO report: "Unbearable to the human heart - Child traficking and action to eliminate it":

    Japan is reported to be the largest market in the Far East for non-Japanese women in the sex trade, with some 150,000 mainly Asian women involved.23 There is no age disaggregation in these statistics and they very likely include girls below 18 years of age.
    The Japanese Immigration Bureau, Ministry of Justice, reports that such illicit movement and entry to Japan is arranged by international crime organizations, which are often violent and heavily implicated in exploitation, debt accrual and the forging of documents.

    http://www.ilo.org/public/english/standards/ipec/publ/childtraf/unbearable.pdf

    I would suggest (unless you are really ugly) that you could quite easily find a girlfriend instead!
     
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  21. ArmandV

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    The word "soapland" was allegedly coined when the Turkish embassy complained about the establishments being called "Turkish Baths."
     
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  22. ghettocities

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    Hey a piece of advice, as cool as "soapland" sounds, don't talk about it with Japanese girls because it's a "touchy subject."

    P.S. Their trick is to place a finger outside of your A-hole to get you to finish quicker. i've never been to one nor will I ever pay for any of those types of things, I just know these things because "it comes with the territory"


    Josh
     
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  23. cursore

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    From a simple question.. to the ususal "I know more about Japan than u do" sort of thing.... and the funniest thing is: No one ever went in these unholy places but everyone are experts about them....:blush:
    :lol:
     
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  24. ArmandV

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    Last April, I was wandering around Shibuya on a Saturday night and decided to sit and have a smoke. I found a low wall under a tree there and lit up. While sitting there, I was people-watching and I noticed a delivery truck pull up. The guy got out and took a big load of white towels into this business establishment. The sign for the business was in Japanese, but in the midst of the Japanese characters was the word "soapland" in English. I couldn't tell from the sign how they charged (no, I didn't see any customers go in), but it looked pretty expensive.
     
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  25. ArmandV

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    In other words: An expert knows 40 different ways to make love but has no girls' phone numbers.
     
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