For one thing, you are being far more dismissive of me than the OP, for reasons I can't quite comprehend, unless you are stuck in a loveless marriage in Japan and resented my implication that not all relationships with a Japanese person need to be that way. (You never clarified your original statement, leaving me no choice but to think you do actually believe love in Japanese marriages is some kind of oxymoron. You also never apologized for essentially implying that my wife, who you have never met and know nothing about except that she is Japanese, will cease to love me when/if we have kids.) What in the world are you talking about? The OP (less so, now) and especially you came in here making these grandiose sweeping statements about what all Japanese people and all marriages in Japan are like. I did my best to offer a more nuanced perspective based on my own experiences in Japan and relationships with Japanese people (who I see as individual human beings and not robots possessing a single collective hive mind that you can generalize about and pigeonhole into a single category) and you accuse me of not understanding Japan and Japanese people and drawing conclusions based on "Western logic"? That's rich. I'm sorry for getting a bit hostile, but I find the tone and implications of your posts rather insulting. I'm not the one assuming that my personal experiences apply to any and all relationships in Japan. You are. Aside to johnnyG, beautiful picture and beautiful family! Thanks for offering one of the more positive contributions to this thread. I guess love can exist in Japan after all. Who'da thunk it?